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[\/vc_column_text][vc_column_text]Bjeshka Guri (intervistuesja)<\/p>\n

Mirvete Guri (e intervistuara)<\/p>\n

Akronimet: BG=Bjeshka Guri, MG=Mirvete Guri<\/p>\n

BG: A po m\u2019tregon di\u00e7ka p\u00ebr veten fillimisht?<\/p>\n

MG: Un\u00eb quhem Mirvete Guri. Punoj n\u00eb shkollen e mesme profesionale. Jam biologe me profesion.<\/p>\n

BG: A po m\u2019tregon di\u00e7ka p\u00ebr koh\u00ebn qysh ja ka nis lufta?<\/p>\n

MG: N\u00eb koh\u00ebn kur ka fillu lufta un\u00eb\u2026 ka qen\u00eb viti I pare q\u00eb kam fillu m\u00ebsimin si m\u00ebsimdhan\u00ebse n\u00eb shkoll\u00ebn fillore n\u00eb fshat dhe dikur kah fundi i luft\u00ebs fillum tani me dal jasht\u00eb tani me l\u00ebshu Kosov\u00ebn jo krejt p\u00ebrniher\u00eb. Nashta na ishim ma t\u00eb fundit q\u00eb kemi dale. Nj\u00eb muj e gjys, pes\u00eb jav\u00eb ose gjasht\u00eb jav\u00eb pa mbaru lufta p\u00ebrfundimisht, 11 qershori. Ne kemi shku n\u00eb maj prej shpijave kemi dale n\u00eb kam\u00eb.<\/p>\n

BG: A po ma shpjegon k\u00ebshtu rrethanat, situat\u00ebn n\u00eb ato koh\u00eb para se me dal? A ju ka thane dikush me u largu apo?<\/p>\n

MG: Po, deri n\u00eb momentin e fundit nuk e kemi pas n\u00ebrmend me dal. Na s\u2019kemi pas shum\u00eb kontakt me forcat e serb\u00ebve se nashta si reliev fshati ka qen\u00eb pak me ni distance ma t\u2019madhe dhe ushtar\u00ebt si kan\u00eb leju me ardh deri af\u00ebr nesh. Po p\u00ebr \u00e7do dit\u00eb situata r\u00ebndohej dhe e pam t\u00eb arsyeshme me u largu neve se s\u2019kish kurrfar\u00eb m\u00ebnyre tjet\u00ebr: ose me ardh ata edhe mi myt krejt popullin ose na me e l\u00ebshu Kosov\u00ebn. Dhe nji dit\u00eb, ka qen\u00eb ajo lajmi i p\u00ebrnj\u00ebhersh\u00ebm, p\u00ebr mendimin tim, shum\u00eb spontanisht veq kan\u00eb ardh edhe kan\u00eb thon \u201cduhet me shku\u201d. Un\u00eb kom tentu mos me shku po nuk m\u2019lan\u00eb, mthan\u00eb duhet me shku patjet\u00ebr se nuk kemi ma mund\u00ebsi me ju siguru juve n\u00eb asnj\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb. Edhe u nis\u00ebm, nashta pasdite ose ora 2, ora 14 kur kemi dale prej k\u00ebtuhit, kush ka q\u00ebllu: me fmi, me gra, t\u2019ri, t\u2019reja edhe kemi shku n\u2019kam\u00eb ka Luboteni. Ti e din \u00e7far\u00eb rruge \u00ebsht\u00eb anej. Pjesa ma e madhe e udh\u00ebtimit ish nat\u00ebn. E di q\u00eb 24 or\u00eb i kemi bo rrug\u00eb.<\/p>\n

BG: Sa veta p\u00ebraf\u00ebrsisht keni qen\u00eb?<\/p>\n

MG: Komplet fshati jon\u00eb edhe disa fshatra tjera po mendoj q\u00eb af\u00ebr nja 300 njer\u00ebz kan\u00eb qen\u00eb. Po krejt nuk kan\u00eb arrit me dal anej se varet sa kan\u00eb pas mund\u00ebsi me ec p\u00ebr shembull do pleq t\u2019vjet\u00ebr q\u00eb skan\u00eb mujt jan\u00eb nal n\u2019rruge. I kan\u00eb kthy tani prap\u00eb. Na kemi pushu vet\u00ebm kah 5 minuta jo ma shum\u00eb.<\/p>\n

BG: Kush ka qen\u00eb udh\u00ebheq\u00ebsi i krejt asaj rruge?<\/p>\n

MG: Nuk ka pas\u00eb naj udh\u00ebheq\u00ebs k\u00ebshtu po jan\u00eb bo udh\u00ebheq\u00ebs kryefamiljar\u00ebt. Baba jem i ndjer\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb interesu p\u00ebr k\u00ebt\u00eb pun\u00eb. Gati se secili n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb individuale \u00ebsht\u00eb kujdes p\u00ebr me udh\u00ebheq\u00eb at\u00eb udh\u00ebtim se s\u2019e ka dit\u00eb askush rrug\u00ebn e sakt\u00eb. Un\u00eb nuk e di, nuk muj me imagjinu tash \u00e7far\u00eb rruge ka qen\u00eb se nat\u00ebn na ka ra me ec\u00eb ve\u00e7 rrug\u00eb q\u00eb kan\u00eb mujt vet\u00ebm dhit\u00eb me e kalu, jo njer\u00ebzit. Edhe shpeshher\u00eb ka pas mund\u00ebsi q\u00eb njer\u00ebzve ju ka rr\u00ebshqit kamba edhe kan\u00eb ra posht\u00eb. Edhe kafsh\u00ebt. Se dikush ka shku e ka marr ndonj\u00eb kali ose di\u00e7ka edhe kan\u00eb ra jan\u00eb l\u00ebndu. Ni gru me ni vajz\u00eb jan\u00eb myt krejt<\/p>\n

BG: E qysh ka ndodh ajo?<\/p>\n

MG: Po aty ka ndodh se edhe ftoft\u00eb se n\u00eb maje t\u00eb Lubotenit akoma n\u00eb mujin maj ka bore edhe \u00ebsht\u00eb ftoft\u00eb shum\u00eb. E ato nuk jan\u00eb rrzu ajo gru me vajz\u00ebn e vet po jan\u00eb ul\u00eb me pushu edhe jan\u00eb ngri. Nuk e di pse vet\u00ebm se kan\u00eb vdek\u00eb dyjat. Edhe k\u00ebshtu ka ndodh\u00eb. Shum\u00eb situat\u00eb e v\u00ebshtir\u00eb. Gjithmon\u00eb jam mundu me e harru k\u00ebt\u00eb pjes\u00eb po s\u2019harrohet kurr\u00eb.<\/p>\n

BG: E \u00e7far\u00eb atmosfere ka mbizot\u00ebru? \u00c7ka \u00ebsht\u00eb fol tu ec? A \u00ebsht\u00eb fol a\u2026?<\/p>\n

MG: \u00ebsht\u00eb fol\u00eb shum\u00eb pak se\u2026\u201dhecni knej, hecni anej\u201d. Nuk ka pas di\u00e7ka\u2026<\/p>\n

BG: A ka pas ndri\u00e7im?<\/p>\n

MG: Jo, s\u2019ka pas ndri\u00e7im. Nuk e di pse\u2026edhe nuk kan\u00eb guxu me pas naj drit\u00eb me veti p\u00ebr shkak se na e kemi kalu kufirin e Maqedonis\u00eb ilegalisht. Aty kur e kemi kalu kufirin nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb dasht as ni fmi me fol as ni njeri, as fmit mos mi lon me qajt se me na hetu ata dalshin na kthejshin prap\u00eb. Mir\u00ebpo, na\u2026s\u2019e di pse n\u2019qat moment kur kemi kalu as fmit s\u2019kan\u00eb bo za as kurgjo edhe kemi kalu. S\u2019na kan\u00eb hetu. Po kur kemi dale anej, m\u00ebngjes o bo\u2026<\/p>\n

BG: Mas 24 or\u00ebve keni dale?<\/p>\n

MG: Po, mas 24 or\u00ebve rrug\u00ebtim, ish m\u00ebngjes tani. Un\u00eb me motr\u00ebn edhe me nipin tim edhe Kenani, kush\u00ebrini, ishim t\u2019par\u00ebt prej grup\u00ebs tone. Duke kalu, duke ecur ve\u00e7 kur kan\u00eb dal dy police t\u00eb Maqedonis\u00eb p\u00ebrpara edhe hera e pare q\u00eb mue m\u2019ka shku n\u2019men e kom shiku ktu n\u2019krah\u00eb q\u00eb po i shkrun policia\u2026\u201dMakedonska policija\u201d edhe I kom nal djemt\u00eb e ju kom thon nalnu se mu ka dok\u00eb q\u00eb shkum n\u2019goj\u00eb t\u2019ujkut. At\u00ebher\u00eb nj\u00ebri polic ishte shqiptar edhe na tha shqip \u201cMos u frik\u00ebsoni, hajdi, se na p\u00ebr juve kemi dale\u201d. Tjetri makedon po ata mire jan\u00eb sjell\u00eb. Po kur kemi shku tani atje te ni shkoll\u00eb, n\u2019oborr t\u2019shkoll\u00ebs na kan\u00eb grumbullu krejtve edhe tjer\u00ebt police maqedon jan\u00eb sjell\u00eb shum\u00eb keq. Na kan\u00eb sha, gjith\u00e7ka, na kan\u00eb b\u00ebrtit. Ama kish shqiptar\u00eb. Ky polici shqiptar aq shum\u00eb na ka ndihmu edhe aq shum\u00eb pozitiv ka qen\u00eb q\u00eb neve na qet\u00ebsojke. Gjithmon\u00eb na thoshte \u201cMos keni dert, un\u00eb jam, un\u00eb jam\u201d. Tash ata kur na folshin n\u00eb gjuh\u00ebn maqedone un\u00eb normal nuk di maqedonisht po edhe serbisht i kuptoj. Po nuk mujsha me fol. Tash un\u00eb folsha anglisht, ai m\u2019b\u00ebrtitke \u201cPse po fol anglisht? Ti po m\u2019kupton serbisht\u201d, ai polici. \u201cPse s\u2019po fol serbisht se mu po m\u2019kupton e po fol anglisht?\u201d Edhe ma shum\u00eb m\u2019shajke. Po kaloi. Tani n\u2019qat m\u00ebnyr\u00eb t\u00eb sistematizuar shkum, na qun n\u00eb kampin e refugjat\u00ebve n\u00eb Preshten. Ai kamp gjindej n\u00eb Tetov\u00eb, n\u00eb komun\u00ebn e Tetov\u00ebs. Aty shkum. Kur shkum aty ishte mas 24 or\u00ebve, as s\u2019pat\u00ebm ngr\u00ebn\u00eb ushqim as uj\u00eb. T\u2019pakt\u00ebn na t\u2019m\u00ebdhajt se u dashke me e rujt p\u00ebr fmi. E aty na prun ushqim prej ndihmave amerikane a s\u2019e di. Po shum\u00eb interesant, edhe me ngran\u00eb ushqimin ishte vshtir\u00eb se nuk punojshin nofullat. Ishte sikur me hanger di\u00e7ka q\u00eb s\u2019\u00ebsht\u00eb ushqim p\u00ebr njeri po e forte e pazb\u00ebrthyshme. Po kaloi edhe kjo. Na shkum mire. Epo masi shkum na, me thon nja ni jav\u00eb dit\u00eb un\u00eb edhe motra s\u2019kemi mujt mu ngrit n\u2019kam\u00eb n\u2019m\u00ebngjes kur jemi zgju prej gjumit se krejt muskujt u ndez\u00ebn edhe s\u2019kish shanc\u00eb mu zgju vet. Po ardhshin dikush prej atyne t\u00eb Tetov\u00ebs, t\u00eb af\u00ebrm\u00ebve tone, na kapshin dor\u00ebn edhe na nimojshin mu zgju. Shum\u00eb e v\u00ebshtir\u00eb kjo periudh\u00eb. Katastrof! Po ma e mira e k\u00ebsaj ka qen\u00eb q\u00eb asnj\u00eb nuk u maltretu nga ne as nuk u vra edhe k\u00ebto tjerat kalun. Po ka lon gjurm\u00eb shum\u00eb t\u2019k\u00ebqija n\u2019mu. \u00cbsht\u00eb historia ma e v\u00ebshtir\u00eb, ma e keqe q\u00eb mund t\u2019i ndodh\u00eb dikuj, lufta.<\/p>\n

BG: \u00c7far\u00eb ndikimi ka n\u00eb jet\u00ebn e p\u00ebrditshme?<\/p>\n

MG: Nashti m\u2019ka bo ma t\u2019fort\u00eb edhe nj\u00ebherit m\u2019ka bo edhe shum\u00eb t\u2019dob\u00ebt se un\u00eb s\u2019muj me ju p\u00ebrballu shum\u00eb ktyne gj\u00ebrave q\u00eb jan\u00eb brutale p\u00ebr shembull. Un\u00eb nuk jam ni person q\u00eb tash mundem me luftu me dikon kshtu me fjal\u00eb p\u00ebr ni padrejt\u00ebsi q\u00eb ma bon ose di\u00e7ka. Un\u00eb nuk mundem se kam emocione. Meniher\u00eb m\u2019kputen kamt edhe zemra rreh shpejt edhe dor\u00ebzohem po n\u00eb an\u00ebn tjet\u00ebr normal jemi bo ma t\u2019fort\u00eb se un\u00eb e kom p\u00ebrjetu luft\u00ebn, kemi p\u00ebrjetu shum\u00eb gjana dhe akoma jemi psiqikisht mire, mendoj. Mendoj q\u00eb jemi mire pasi q\u00eb po vazhdoj me zhvillu k\u00ebt\u00eb procesin arsimor te nxansat pa ndonj\u00eb ekses se edhe ata jam mundu pas luft\u00ebs tani mi kuptu se ka pas nxansa me trauma edhe nxansa q\u00eb i kan\u00eb hup prind\u00ebt, bab\u00ebn ma shum\u00eb, edhe gjithmon\u00eb ju kom ndihmu edhe i kom kuptu shum\u00eb. K\u00ebshtu me gjakftoht\u00ebsi. N\u2019qet aspekt mendoj q\u00eb e kom dhon ni provim shum\u00eb t\u2019madh t\u2019jet\u00ebs. Se di, \u00ebsht\u00eb e p\u00ebrzime.<\/p>\n

BG: Faleminderit.<\/p>\n

MG: Qofsh e nderuar.<\/p>\n

BG: A ki di\u00e7ka me shtu, q\u00eb don di\u00e7ka tjet\u00ebr me thon a pe p\u00ebrfundojm\u00eb?<\/p>\n

MG: Po\u2026 shpresoj q\u00eb luft\u00eb m\u00eb nuk do t\u2019ekzistoj\u00eb kurr\u00eb, nuk bohet kurr\u00eb mo lufta. Edhe kam d\u00ebshir\u00eb q\u00eb t\u00eb ndryshoj qasja e njer\u00ebzve ndaj jet\u00ebs, me e \u00e7mu pak ma shum\u00eb jet\u00ebn, jet\u00ebn e vet edhe t\u00eb njoni tjetrit, jo mu bo shum\u00eb tiran sikurse n\u2019luft\u00eb edhe pas luft\u00ebs tash ndaj njoni tjetrit. Mu bo pak ma sensibil njer\u00ebzit.[\/vc_column_text][\/vc_column][\/vc_row]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

[vc_row wrap_container=”yes” section_text_color=”light” text_align=”justify”][vc_column][vc_column_text] [\/vc_column_text][vc_column_text]Bjeshka Guri (intervistuesja) Mirvete Guri (e intervistuara) Akronimet: BG=Bjeshka Guri, MG=Mirvete Guri BG: A po m\u2019tregon di\u00e7ka p\u00ebr veten fillimisht? MG: Un\u00eb quhem Mirvete Guri. Punoj n\u00eb shkollen e mesme profesionale. Jam biologe me profesion. BG: A po m\u2019tregon di\u00e7ka p\u00ebr koh\u00ebn qysh ja ka nis lufta? MG: N\u00eb koh\u00ebn kur […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":487,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[22],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/museumofrefugees-ks.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/607"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/museumofrefugees-ks.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/museumofrefugees-ks.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/museumofrefugees-ks.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/museumofrefugees-ks.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=607"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/museumofrefugees-ks.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/607\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1280,"href":"https:\/\/museumofrefugees-ks.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/607\/revisions\/1280"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/museumofrefugees-ks.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/487"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/museumofrefugees-ks.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=607"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/museumofrefugees-ks.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=607"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/museumofrefugees-ks.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=607"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}