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Intervistuesja: Orhidea Humolli<\/p>\n

E intervistuara: Alban Radoniqi<\/p>\n

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O.H.: Qysh e kishe p\u00ebrshkru periudh\u00ebn para se me fillu lufta?<\/p>\n

A: P\u00ebrsh\u00ebndetje. Un\u00eb jam Alban Radoniqi, jam 35 vje\u00e7ar. Gjat\u00eb koh\u00ebs s\u00eb luft\u00ebs un\u00eb kam qen\u00eb 13 vje\u00e7ar. Para se me fillu luftu \u2013 lufta pat fillu n\u00ebp\u00ebr fshatra…<\/p>\n

O.H.: M\u2019fal q\u00eb po t\u00eb nd\u00ebrprej. Ti jeton n\u00eb Gjakov\u00eb edhe n\u2019periudh\u00ebn e vitit \u201999 ke qen\u00eb n\u2019Gjakov\u00eb.<\/p>\n

A: Po, kishin d\u00ebgju q\u00eb ka pas\u00eb luftime n\u00ebp\u00ebr fshatra. Banor\u00ebt e fshatrave kan\u00eb ardh\u00eb n\u2019Gjakov\u00eb me u strehu. I kena strehu disa familje n\u2019Gjakov\u00eb. E dishim qysh o kon gjendja n\u00ebp\u00ebr fshatra. E k\u00ebtu s\u2019kena pas naj problem. E kena viju shkollim n\u2019rregull por prej dat\u00ebs 24 mars kur fillun bombardimet n\u2019Kosov\u00eb, gjendja ndryshoi edhe k\u00ebtu. U nd\u00ebrpren shkolla, t\u2019gjitha. Pastaj fillun me djegie, fillun me vrasje. Ne kemi qen\u00eb t\u00eb strehum n\u2019shpi, me familje. Gjat\u00eb dit\u00ebs kena mujt me dal\u00eb n\u00ebp\u00ebr qytet, kena mujt me dal n\u00eb lagje, me lujt si fmi. Gjat\u00eb nat\u00ebs fillojshin bombardimet, kalljet, n\u00ebp\u00ebr qytet. Na u duke mu strehu n\u00ebp\u00ebr bodrume, ose n\u00ebp\u00ebr shpi mrena.<\/p>\n

O.H.: Sa ka qen\u00eb e v\u00ebshtir\u00eb ti \u00e7do dit\u00eb me e p\u00ebrball\u00eb me k\u00ebto eksperienca tu e dit si ni fmi 13 vje\u00e7ar q\u00eb prioritet ndoshta e ka n\u00eb at\u00eb mosh\u00eb mi bo detyrat, me lujt me shok\u00eb? Tu e dit qysh o situata n\u00eb Kosov\u00eb.<\/p>\n

A: Nashta k\u00ebta ma t\u2019vjetrit e kan\u00eb dit\u00eb qysh shkon lufta e qysh osht lufta. Na se kena dit\u00eb. Na jena dal\u00eb, kena lujt, si zakonisht. Po ma von\u00eb e kuptum edhe na q\u00eb fillun me vra edhe fmi, sidomos k\u00ebtu n\u00eb lagjen ton\u00eb. Pas dat\u00ebs 1 prill, kur mor\u00ebm vesh q\u00eb kan\u00eb vra edhe fmi e pleq, at\u00ebher\u00eb o kon ma v\u00ebshtir\u00eb. Prej dat\u00ebs 2 prill, jon ardh\u00eb, na kan\u00eb nxjerr\u00eb jasht\u00eb, na kan\u00eb thon me shku p\u00ebr Shqipni. At\u00ebher\u00eb jena shku n\u2019Shqipni kom, prej Gjakov\u00ebs deri n\u2019kufi.<\/p>\n

O.H.: A jeni nis\u00eb n\u00eb at\u00eb moment kur ju kan\u00eb thon?<\/p>\n

A: Po, n\u00eb at\u00eb moment jena nis. Jena nis n\u00eb m\u00ebngjes, n\u2019ora 8. Kena mrri n\u2019ora 8 n\u2019mbramje. Dmth 12 or\u00eb kena ec\u00eb n\u2019kom, deri n\u2019kufi n\u2019Shqipni. E kena pa Qarshin\u00eb e Vjet\u00ebr n\u2019Gjakov\u00eb q\u00eb osht, o kon e djegne t\u00ebr\u00ebsisht. Kena pa trupa t\u2019njer\u00ebzve q\u00eb i kan\u00eb vra gjat\u00eb luft\u00ebs. Nuk mujshim me besu. Na si fmi s\u2019kena dit, s\u2019kena pa kurr\u00eb njer\u00ebz t\u2019vram\u00eb n\u2019rrug\u00eb. Aty i kena pa ran. Rrug\u00ebs p\u00ebr Shqipni na ka p\u00ebrcjell\u00eb policia serbe. Kemi dasht me shku tjet\u00ebrkah, jo p\u00ebr Shqipni, me shku me e mar axh\u00ebn tjet\u00ebr po nuk na kan\u00eb lon. Edhe na kan\u00eb thon drejt me shku p\u00ebr Shqipni. Jena shku me ni van, n\u00eb Zhup m\u2019doket n\u00eb fshatin Zhup. Na kan\u00eb grumbullu t\u2019gjith\u00ebve, bashk\u00eb aty. N\u00eb at\u00eb moment kom thon q\u00eb dojn me na vra t\u2019gjith\u00ebve. Kan\u00eb fillu me gjujt tenelt me arm\u00eb derisa na kan\u00eb bo t\u2019gjith\u00ebve rresht p\u00ebr dy, edhe t\u2019gjith\u00eb p\u00ebr kufi. K\u00ebshtu, deri n\u00eb Shqipni.<\/p>\n

O.H.: Rrug\u00ebs a ka naj moment q\u00eb ty tash t\u2019kujtohet edhe ndoshta e ve\u00e7on prej krejt periudh\u00ebs kur tash munesh me e ve\u00e7u si refugjat p\u00ebrderisa jeni shp\u00ebrngul, p\u00ebrve\u00e7 momentit kur that\u00eb q\u00eb ju kan\u00eb d\u00ebbu prej sht\u00ebpis\u00eb n\u00eb m\u00ebngjes edhe rrug\u00ebs n\u00ebp\u00ebr Gjakov\u00eb, dmth kur e keni pa Qarshin\u00eb? Po tash rrug\u00ebs p\u00ebr Shqip\u00ebri a ka naj moment t\u00eb till\u00eb?<\/p>\n

A: I vetmi moment o kon q\u00eb na kan\u00eb grumbullu t\u00eb gjith\u00ebve aty n\u00eb Zhup edhe kur kemi mendu q\u00eb do t\u2019na vrasin t\u00eb gjith\u00ebve. Por fati deshti nuk na vran\u00eb, na \u00e7un p\u00ebr Shqipni. Edhe kur jena shku aty, nuk dishim kah kena me shku, nuk dishim ku kena me flejt, ku kena me nejt. Kemi nejt n\u00eb nj\u00eb shkoll\u00eb ni nat\u00eb, n\u2019kufi aty me Shqipni. Kemi flejt n\u00ebp\u00ebr tok\u00eb, s\u2019kishim as ku me flejt. T\u00eb nes\u00ebrmen jemi shku n\u2019kom prej fshatit Letaj n\u2019Shqipni deri n\u00eb Krum\u00eb, derisa jon ardh\u00eb disa kamiona t\u00eb ushtris\u00eb shqiptare. Na kan\u00eb marr\u00eb na kan\u00eb \u00e7u n\u2019Durr\u00ebs. E n\u2019Durr\u00ebs kena flejt n\u2019lotari t\u00eb Durr\u00ebsit ni nat\u00eb. Prej atyhit na kan\u00eb \u00e7u n\u2019kamp, n\u2019Roshbull, ni kamp i refugjat\u00ebve. Aty na ka ra me nejt 2 muj dit\u00eb. Aty d\u00ebgjum shum\u00eb raste, kemi pa shum\u00eb familje q\u00eb i kan\u00eb pas njer\u00ebzit familjar\u00eb t\u00eb humbur, familjar\u00eb t\u00eb zhdukur, t\u00eb vram\u00eb \u2013 e dishin q\u00eb i kan\u00eb t\u00eb vram\u00eb. Kom gjet shoqni t\u2019re aty, prej qyteteve tjera q\u00eb si kom njoft kurr\u00eb. O kon v\u00ebshtir\u00eb.<\/p>\n

O.H.: A keni pas\u00eb \u2013 that\u00eb q\u00eb keni d\u00ebgju shum\u00eb storje prej familjeve dhe prej atyre q\u00eb i keni taku edhe n\u00eb kampin Roshbull, po ju vet\u00eb familja, qoft\u00eb familja e ngusht\u00eb po edhe…. Fillimisht po m\u2019duhet me pyt a keni qen\u00eb vet\u00ebm si familje e ngusht\u00eb q\u00eb e keni bo rrug\u00ebn deri n\u2019Shqipni apo kur jeni d\u00ebbu jeni organizu mrena lagjes, ose mrena familjes pak ma t\u00eb gjer\u00eb?<\/p>\n

A: Familja, lagjja jon\u00eb jemi organizu p\u00ebr me shku p\u00ebr Shqip\u00ebri. Masi na than\u00eb milicia at\u00ebher\u00eb serbe. Na tha mi l\u00ebshu shpijat edhe u detyrum e gjith\u00eb lagjja.<\/p>\n

O.H.: A e kishit edhe ju, dmth qoft\u00eb prej familjes s\u00eb ngusht\u00eb, qoft\u00eb prej dikuj prej lagjes, prej familjes pak ma t\u2019gjon me t\u2019cil\u00ebt jeni shp\u00ebrngul\u00eb si refugjat\u00eb n\u00eb Shqipni, a kishit edhe ju frik\u00eb, dilem\u00eb se a mos e keni lon dikon k\u00ebtu, mos o vra, o zhduk dikush? Apo personalisht nuk e keni pas\u00eb?<\/p>\n

A: E kena pas\u00eb at\u00eb frik\u00eb, se un\u00eb me dat\u00ebn 1 prill kur hyn\u00eb policia, q\u00eb fillun masakrat n\u00eb lagjen ton\u00eb, n\u00eb at\u00eb dat\u00eb e kan\u00eb vra edhe tezen time. \u00cbsht\u00eb e zhdukur akoma, me gjith burrin. E gjat\u00eb rrug\u00ebs p\u00ebr Shqipni, kur jemi nis m\u00eb dy prill, i kemi taku fmit\u00eb. Ata tregojshin q\u00eb nuk din\u00eb kah jon prind\u00ebt, fmit\u00eb e tezes, deri mas luft\u00ebs e kuptum q\u00eb ata jon t\u00eb vram\u00eb. Burri i tezes \u00ebsht\u00eb gjet\u00eb, tezja akoma nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb gjet\u00eb. \u00cbsht\u00eb e zhdukur akoma. K\u00ebtu n\u00eb lagjen ton\u00eb jon ardh\u00eb ata, n\u00eb t\u00eb nj\u00ebjt\u00ebn lagje.<\/p>\n

O.H.: Dmth vrasja ve\u00e7 paska pas fillu n\u00eb lagjen e juj?<\/p>\n

A: Po. Sikur t\u00eb mos ishim dal\u00eb na m\u00eb dat\u00ebn 2 prill, mas ni kohe shum\u00eb t\u00eb shkurt\u00eb kan\u00eb ardh\u00eb edhe n\u00eb familjen ton\u00eb se baba jem ka punu n\u00eb \u2018N\u00ebn\u00eb Terez\u00eb\u2019 gjat\u00eb koh\u00ebs s\u00eb luft\u00ebs. Ka punu edhe n\u00eb K\u00ebshill t\u00eb Financimit kur e ka financu edhe U\u00c7K-n\u00eb edhe i kan\u00eb financu shkollat, profesorat. Ka qen\u00eb sikur me thon \u201cn\u00eb sy\u201d t\u00eb policis\u00eb. Edhe qysh kallxon ni kojshi k\u00ebtu q\u00eb ka q\u00ebndru ton koh\u00ebn, mas nja ni jave jon ardh\u00eb policia, i kan\u00eb k\u00ebrku me emra, me list\u00eb personat q\u00eb jon kon n\u00eb at\u00eb familje, n\u00eb familjen ton\u00eb. Po nuk na kan\u00eb gjet, edhe prej inatit q\u00eb nuk na kan\u00eb gjet na kan\u00eb kall\u00eb shpijat. I kan\u00eb kall\u00eb tri shpija, neve edhe dy axh\u00ebve, n\u00eb oborr q\u00eb i kem,<\/p>\n

O.H.: N\u00eb Roshbull that\u00eb q\u00eb \u2013 tash po kaloj n\u00eb pjes\u00ebn kur cil\u00ebsohi si refugjat \u2013 that\u00eb q\u00eb ke taku njer\u00ebz t\u2019ri edhe prej vendeve tjera. Fillimisht a mbani akoma kontakte?<\/p>\n

A: Me dy vet\u00eb mbaj akoma kontakte. I kom t\u00eb qytetit tim. Akoma jemi shok\u00eb. Me ata tjer\u00ebt, t\u00eb qyteteve tjera na kan\u00eb humb\u00eb kontaktet. Gjat\u00eb luft\u00ebs na fillum arsimin aty, \u00e7ka ishim fmi, p\u00ebr shembull moshat e reja q\u00eb kishim em dal\u00eb n\u00eb shkoll\u00eb. E improvizun si klas\u00eb aty, p\u00ebr t\u00eb gjith\u00eb neve dhe aty kom pas shum\u00eb shok\u00eb t\u00eb klas\u00ebs, t\u00eb gjenerat\u00ebs q\u00eb na ka ra.<\/p>\n

O.H.: A ish ky organizimi i klasave, i m\u00ebsimit n\u00eb ato kampe n\u00eb Shqipni, a ka qen\u00eb organizim i vet\u00eb refugjat\u00ebve, m\u00ebnyra e socializimit me njeri-tjetrin apo…?<\/p>\n

A: Ka qen\u00eb organizim i vet\u00eb refugjat\u00ebve. Edhe profesorat kan\u00eb qen\u00eb n\u00eb t\u00eb nj\u00ebjtin kamp, si refugjat\u00eb. Dhe profesorat kan\u00eb qen\u00eb ose si student\u00eb q\u00eb kan\u00eb qen\u00eb p\u00ebr land\u00eb t\u00eb ndryshme, ose kan\u00eb qen\u00eb profesora edhe gjat\u00eb para luft\u00ebs. Edhe ata kan\u00eb qen\u00eb banor\u00eb n\u00eb at\u00eb kamp. Ka qen\u00eb improvizim i vet\u00eb kampit, neve, aty q\u00eb jemi kon.<\/p>\n

O.H.: Sa keni qen\u00eb stabil, ose sa keni mujt qoft\u00eb me pas ni improvizim t\u2019mir\u00eb edhe me gjana qoft\u00eb ushqimore qoft\u00eb me veshmbathje? A keni pas\u00eb di\u00e7ka me veti, a i keni pas\u00eb mund\u00ebsit\u00eb p\u00ebr at\u00eb koh\u00eb t\u2019shkurt\u00eb sa e keni pas\u00eb me marr di\u00e7ka ose ka dikush q\u00eb o p\u00ebrkujdes p\u00ebr ju atje?<\/p>\n

A: Un\u00eb p\u00ebr veti kom dal\u00eb veq me ato rroba \u00e7ka i kom pas\u00eb vesh\u00eb. Edhe dy-tri pal\u00eb rroba i kena marr\u00eb \u00e7ka kena mujt. O kon rrug\u00eb e gat\u00eb deri n\u2019Shqipni. S\u2019kemi mujt edhe me bajt shum\u00eb gj\u00ebra po mund t\u2019them q\u00eb 2-3 par\u00eb rroba i kena pas sa p\u00ebr mu ndrru. Po aty ka pas\u00eb ndihma, ka qen\u00eb kamp italian, Arco Valeno thirret. Ata na kan\u00eb ndihmu me veshmbathje, me ushqim, me t\u00eb gjitha. Kemi pas\u00eb kuzhin\u00ebn n\u2019kamp. Kan\u00eb p\u00ebrgatit ushqim italian ata. Kemi pas\u00eb ambullant\u00ebn n\u00eb rast nevoj\u00eb kush ka nevoj\u00eb.<\/p>\n

O.H.: Sa kishe qen\u00eb mir\u00ebnjoh\u00ebs ose kritik? Qysh ndihesh? Cilat jan\u00eb vler\u00ebsimet tuaja n\u00eb lidhje me p\u00ebrkujdesjen ose organizimin qoft\u00eb t\u00eb shtetit shqiptar qoft\u00eb t\u00eb organizuesve t\u00eb kampit italian, etj?<\/p>\n

A: I falenderoj shum\u00eb shtetin shqiptar. Na kan\u00eb dal\u00eb n\u00eb ndihm\u00eb shum\u00eb, t\u00eb gjith\u00eb kosovar\u00ebve, jo ve\u00e7 neve. E falenderoj shum\u00eb edhe Arco Valenon, shoqat\u00ebn Arco Valeno q\u00eb na ka ndihmu shum\u00eb me k\u00ebt\u00eb kamp. Na ka gjet\u00eb strehim se nuk dishim kah me shku, nuk kishim kah me shku. Ran\u00eb k\u00ebta edhe na strehun n\u00eb at\u00eb kamp. Normal n\u00ebp\u00ebr shatorra, nuk kishim naj shpi a najsan. Po kena kalu mir\u00eb aty. Kena kalu shum\u00eb mir\u00eb. Ka pas\u00eb ushqim t\u00eb mjaftush\u00ebm p\u00ebr t\u2019gjith\u00eb. Tri her\u00eb n\u2019dit\u00eb ka pas\u00eb ushqim. Ke pas\u00eb kujdesin mjek\u00ebsor. Ke pas\u00eb veshmbathje, ndihma, lojna p\u00ebr fmi. Edhe ata pun\u00ebtor\u00eb q\u00eb kan\u00eb qen\u00eb kan\u00eb qen\u00eb polic\u00eb, karabinier\u00eb italian\u00eb dhe ushtar\u00eb italian\u00eb, plus pun\u00ebtor\u00eb vullnetar\u00eb q\u00eb jon ardh\u00eb prej italis\u00eb. Edhe ata kan\u00eb qen\u00eb shum\u00eb t\u2019mir\u00eb, kena kalu shum\u00eb mir\u00eb me ta.<\/p>\n

O.H.: P\u00ebraf\u00ebrsisht sa kishe thon q\u00eb ka qen\u00eb numri i refugjat\u00ebve n\u00eb kampin e juj? Sa tu \u00ebsht\u00eb dok ty si fmi n\u00eb at\u00eb koh\u00eb?<\/p>\n

A: Mund t\u00eb them q\u00eb kan\u00eb qen\u00eb 1000 vet\u00eb n\u00eb at\u00eb kamp. O kon kamp shum\u00eb i madh. Ka pas\u00eb shum\u00eb familje aty, 1000 vet\u00eb p\u00ebraf\u00ebrsisht. Shumica kan\u00eb qen\u00eb gra, fmi dhe pleq.<\/p>\n

O.H.: Sa koh\u00eb keni q\u00ebndru n\u00eb kampin n\u00eb fjal\u00eb?<\/p>\n

A: Periudha ka qen\u00eb 3 mars, 3 prill m\u00eb falni, deri m\u00eb 20 qershor. M\u00eb 20 qershor jena shp\u00ebrngul.<\/p>\n

O.H.: E qysh e mor\u00ebt iniciativ\u00ebn p\u00ebr mu kthy? Qysh u sigurut q\u00eb jeni ma t\u2019sigurt\u00eb mu kthy ose qysh e kuptut informacionin q\u00eb n\u00eb Kosov\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb…<\/p>\n

A: Pat\u00ebm d\u00ebgju q\u00eb m\u00eb 14 qershor u \u00e7liru Gjakova, se Kosova u \u00e7liru m\u00eb 12 qershor. M\u00eb 14 qershor u \u00e7liru Gjakova, e baba si kryefamiljar nuk kish qef me nejt n\u2019kamp na. Lypke mund\u00ebsin\u00eb mu kthy n\u00eb Kosov\u00eb. E n\u00eb t\u00eb nj\u00ebjt\u00ebn koh\u00eb un\u00eb mamen e kom pas n\u2019Itali p\u00ebr sh\u00ebrim. Ka pas\u00eb problem me veshka n\u00eb at\u00eb koh\u00eb. E paten qu prej kampit n\u00eb Itali p\u00ebr sh\u00ebrim. Ne kem kthy e gjith\u00eb familja, e baba pat q\u00ebndru aty nja ni muj p\u00ebr me e prit mamen mu kthy edhe jon kthy bashk\u00eb.<\/p>\n

O.H.: A keni mujt me majt kontakte me mamen ose a o p\u00ebrkujdes dikush atje?<\/p>\n

A: Po ka qen\u00eb ni mjeke q\u00eb o kon aty. Ajo e pat marr atje n\u2019shpi t\u2019vet, ka pas nejt te ajo. Ajo mjekja punojke n\u00eb t\u00eb nj\u00ebjtin spital ku i ka pas\u00eb kontrollat mama. Kena pas kontakte vazhdimisht prej kampit me Itali. Gati \u00e7do dit\u00eb kena fol bashk\u00eb.<\/p>\n

O.H.: A t\u2019ka mungu ajo ndjenja me e pas sidomos mamen, prindin af\u00ebr n\u00eb situat\u00eb t\u00eb till\u00eb? Sidomos kur nuk e din edhe gjendjen, nuk munesh me e pa.<\/p>\n

A: Shum\u00eb. Po e mira e saj o kon q\u00eb un\u00eb e kom dit ku e kom. E kom dit q\u00eb osht n\u00eb Itali, p\u00ebr sh\u00ebrim. Ka pas\u00eb shum\u00eb familje aty, shum\u00eb fmi q\u00eb se kan\u00eb dit\u00eb ku i kan\u00eb prind\u00ebt. Ka pas t\u2019zhdukun prind, ka pas q\u00eb jon shp\u00ebrngul, s\u2019kan\u00eb pas kontakte me nj\u00ebri-tjetrin. Bo vaki edhe ata jon kon n\u2019Shqipni po jon kon n\u2019vene tjera, nuk e kan\u00eb dit\u00eb kah jon familjar\u00ebt. Un\u00eb e mira o kon q\u00eb e kom dit ku osht, e kom dit q\u00eb osht n\u00eb Itali, e kom dit q\u00eb o gjall\u00eb se ka pas shum\u00eb q\u00eb jon kon t\u00eb vram\u00eb. P\u00ebr shembull, fmit\u00eb e tezes hala majshin shpresa se jon gjall\u00eb p\u00ebr tezen, derisa jon kthy n\u2019Kosov\u00eb e kan\u00eb marr\u00eb vesh.<\/p>\n

O.H.: A ishin ata me juve n\u2019at\u00eb koh\u00eb?<\/p>\n

A: Ata kan\u00eb qen\u00eb nja ni jav\u00eb me neve. At\u00ebher\u00eb jon shp\u00ebrngul n\u00eb Ojst, tjet\u00ebr qytet, n\u00eb Tiran\u00eb. Na jemi kon n\u00eb Roshbull af\u00ebr Durr\u00ebsit. Ata jon shku n\u00eb Tiran\u00eb.<\/p>\n

O.H.: Po n\u00eb koh\u00ebn kur e kuptut q\u00eb Kosova osht \u00e7liru dhe e mor\u00ebt vendimin q\u00eb me u kthy n\u00eb Kosov\u00eb, a kishit dilem\u00eb se qysh ka me vajt rruga, sa ka me qen\u00eb e rrezikshme? Ti si fmi qysh e ke konceptu n\u00eb at\u00eb koh\u00eb, dmth n\u00eb baz\u00eb t\u00eb ndjenjave tua, qysh e ke menu, qysh e ke perceptu k\u00ebt\u00eb situat\u00eb?<\/p>\n

A: Un\u00eb si fmi, kur niva q\u00eb jena \u00e7liru, na s\u2019kena dit\u00eb q\u00eb munet me kon najsan tjet\u00ebr, jena \u00e7liru edhe kom prit me gjith\u00eb qef mu kthy n\u2019Kosov\u00eb, n\u2019Kosov\u00eb t\u2019lir\u00eb mir\u00ebpo…<\/p>\n

O.H.: A ke mendu q\u00eb ki mi gjet shok\u00ebt, ki me e gjet shpin\u00eb qysh e ke lon, gjanat q\u00eb i ke lon n\u2019shpi?<\/p>\n

A: Dit\u00ebn e par\u00eb kur kem ardh\u00eb, jem shkue drejt n\u2019shpi. Na jena nal te halla ime. Dit\u00ebn e par\u00eb jem shku kom deri n\u2019shpi edhe at\u00ebher\u00eb e pash shpin\u00eb q\u00eb osht e djegne. Se kom dit deri n\u00eb at\u00eb moment.<\/p>\n

O.H.: Dmth ti ke qen\u00eb i pari prej familjes s\u00eb ngusht\u00eb q\u00eb e ke pa shpin\u00eb?<\/p>\n

A: Mund t\u00eb them i pari, po. Baba ka qen\u00eb n\u2019Shqipni, un\u00eb kom ardh deri n\u2019shpi, ku e kom pa shpin\u00eb e kallne. E baba e kish pas dit\u00eb q\u00eb osht shpija e kallne, e kan\u00eb lajmru shok\u00ebt e vet. Un\u00eb se kom dit deri n\u00eb at\u00eb moment q\u00eb e pash.<\/p>\n

O.H.: Cili ke reagimi yt apo \u00e7ka nd\u00ebrmorre pastaj? A provove me gjet di\u00e7ka?<\/p>\n

A: S\u2019kishe \u00e7ka me bo n\u00eb at\u00eb moment. Kta ma t\u00eb mdhej q\u00eb ishin thojshin mos hini mrena se munet me pas naj min\u00eb e najsan se ka pas raste kur ka pas edhe mina n\u00ebp\u00ebr oborre t\u00eb shpijave. I kan\u00eb lon shpijat t\u00eb kallne, ka pas edhe mina aty. N\u00eb at\u00eb moment veq prej der\u00ebs s\u00eb oborrit e kom pa se jom tut me hi mrena. E kom pa q\u00eb jon t\u2019kallne. Kom kqyr p\u00ebr shok\u00eb. Akoma so kon asnjoni aty. Se kam pa ask\u00ebnd. Jom kthy prap\u00eb te halla ku kemi qen\u00eb t\u2019strehum. Te halla kena nejt nja ni jav\u00eb derisa tezja ime e gjeti ni banes\u00eb t\u00eb serb\u00ebve, q\u00eb u shp\u00ebrngul\u00ebn ata prej Kosov\u00ebs, i kan\u00eb lon banesat. Na \u00e7ka ishim t\u2019kallun u strehum n\u00ebp\u00ebr banesat e atyre. E kur him aty mrena, aty o kon tmerr. Aty kishte a po do granata, a po do pluma, kishte maska t\u00eb serb\u00ebve, kishte paketime t\u2019minave, gjitha gj\u00ebrat kan\u00eb qen\u00eb. E thirr\u00ebm, ish shtabi i U\u00c7K-s\u00eb, i thirr\u00ebm ata, erdh\u00ebn, i hek\u00ebn ato gj\u00ebra, at\u00ebher\u00eb u strehum aty.<\/p>\n

O.H.: Dometh\u00ebn\u00eb ishte objekt i jetuesh\u00ebm po q\u00eb ish shfryt\u00ebzu p\u00ebr mi lokalizu edhe k\u00ebto mjetet e luft\u00ebs apo jo?<\/p>\n

A: Po gati t\u00eb gjith\u00eb ata q\u00eb ishin banor\u00eb, t\u00eb gjith\u00eb e kishin nga nj\u00eb ose n\u00eb polici, ose n\u00eb ushtri. Edhe n\u00ebse e ki dikon, ata automatikisht i marin ato gjanat n\u00ebp\u00ebr shpija, me bomba, me pluma, me arm\u00eb…<\/p>\n

O.H.: A ishte kjo banes\u00eb q\u00eb tash e gjet\u00ebt dhe pat mund\u00ebsi mu strehu pas rikthimit t\u2019juj, sa ka qen\u00eb kjo adresa juaj apo destinacioni juj? A keni k\u00ebrku p\u00ebr mund\u00ebsi ma t\u2019mira apo keni vazhdu me q\u00ebndru p\u00ebr ni koh\u00eb derisa keni mujt me e nd\u00ebrtu, qoft\u00eb ose me e marr ni fondacion p\u00ebr sht\u00ebpi ose \u00e7kado p\u00ebr me u kthy n\u2019jet\u00eb?<\/p>\n

A: Na kemi nejt n\u00eb at\u00eb banes\u00eb deri n\u00eb vitin 2011, derisa e nd\u00ebrtum shpin\u00eb ton\u00eb. Faleminderit prej organizatave t\u00eb huja na ndihmun p\u00ebr me e nd\u00ebrtu shpin\u00eb. N\u00eb at\u00eb moment q\u00eb u nd\u00ebrtu shpija krejt, na jemi dal n\u00eb shpi ton\u00eb, e kemi liru banes\u00ebn.<\/p>\n

O.H.: A e keni kuptu e kujt ka qen\u00eb ajo banes\u00eb?<\/p>\n

A: Po banesa ka qen\u00eb \u2013 a mund t\u00eb them me em\u00ebr?<\/p>\n

O.H.: N\u00ebse e ndjen me thon…<\/p>\n

A: Banesa ka qen\u00eb e Vojslav Jovanoviq, pronar i asaj banese. Na ka thirr\u00eb n\u2019telefon dy her\u00eb, tri her\u00eb. Po s\u2019jemi kon p\u00ebr me fol me t\u00eb edhe na ka thon p\u00ebr ni kojshi t\u2019Vetin na ka \u00e7u lajm n\u00ebse doni me e ble banes\u00ebn, ata s\u2019dojn\u00eb mu kthy mo edhe s\u2019kan\u00eb pse mu kthy mo. S\u2019kena dasht me e ble banes\u00ebn. E kena pas shpin\u00eb ton\u00eb, objektivi ka qen\u00eb me e maru shpin\u00eb ton\u00eb. N\u00eb at\u00eb moment q\u00eb u nd\u00ebrtu shpija, nuk jemi shku mo aty.<\/p>\n

O.H.: Dmth p\u00ebrmes refuzimit p\u00ebr me e ble banes\u00ebn, ju keni q\u00ebndru aty dhe ai nuk ka tentu me reagu ose di\u00e7ka?<\/p>\n

A: Jo.<\/p>\n

O.H.: A e keni njoft ju ma her\u00ebt at\u00eb person? Apo thjesht ka qen\u00eb rast\u00ebsore krejt?<\/p>\n

A: Jo. N\u2019at\u00eb moment, ata banor\u00eb q\u00eb ishin t\u00eb p\u00ebrhersh\u00ebm aty na tregun kush osht. Nuk e kena njoft.<\/p>\n

O.H.: Besoj ka qen\u00eb nd\u00ebrtes\u00eb shum\u00eb kat\u00ebshe apo?<\/p>\n

A: Po.<\/p>\n

O.H.: Fqinj\u00ebt e juj a e kishin t\u00eb nj\u00ebjt\u00ebn storje pak a shum\u00eb si ju? A keni mujt qoft\u00eb me u socializu n\u00eb k\u00ebt\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb?<\/p>\n

A: Secili e ka pas\u00eb ndryshe. Ne jemi m\u00eb larg. Banesa ka qen\u00eb n\u00eb qend\u00ebr e serbit. Ne jemi m\u00eb larg qendr\u00ebs. Ne e kemi pas m\u00eb vshtir\u00eb se ka qen\u00eb policia aty. Edhe ata e kan\u00eb pas vshtir\u00eb n\u00eb t\u00eb nj\u00ebjt\u00ebn koh\u00eb se kan\u00eb qen\u00eb n\u2019banes\u00eb, kan\u00eb qen\u00eb t\u2019bllokum n\u2019pallat. Nuk kan\u00eb mujt me dal\u00eb shlir\u00eb. Edhe ata kan\u00eb pas shum\u00eb probleme prej serb\u00ebve. Kan\u00eb prit ve\u00e7 kur t\u2019iu hin\u00eb mrena edhe ja mi nxerr mi \u00e7u p\u00ebr Shqipni ja mi vra.<\/p>\n

O.H.: Tash q\u00eb e kujtove gjith\u00eb at\u00eb rrug\u00ebtimin e juj si refugjat e derisa jeni kthy, that\u00eb q\u00eb n\u2019vitin 2011 jeni shp\u00ebrngul n\u00eb adres\u00ebn e juj, n\u00eb sht\u00ebpin\u00eb e juj tash t\u00eb nd\u00ebrtume. Jeton aty apo aktualisht?<\/p>\n

A: Po.<\/p>\n

O.H.: Sa e ki lidhjen emocionale me at\u00eb q\u00eb na e quajm\u00eb sht\u00ebpi, vendit ku i p\u00ebrket n\u00eb krahasim me sht\u00ebpin\u00eb e par\u00eb q\u00eb e keni pas\u00eb para luft\u00ebs? A e keni qoft\u00eb edhe ndjenj\u00ebn e nj\u00ebjt\u00eb, sa \u00ebsht\u00eb i nj\u00ebjt\u00eb qoft\u00eb edhe oborri ose nd\u00ebrtesa, arkitektura, apo qysh ndjehesh tash si i rritur n\u00eb raport me sht\u00ebpin\u00eb?<\/p>\n

A: Ajo sht\u00ebpi o kon e vjet\u00ebr po jemi rrit aty, kom lind n\u2019at\u00eb shpi, normal \u00ebsht\u00eb ndjenj\u00eb e ve\u00e7ant\u00eb…<\/p>\n

O.H.: P\u00ebr ata edhe po pys.<\/p>\n

A: \u00cbsht\u00eb ndryshe. Kjo \u00ebsht\u00eb shpi ma e re po prap\u00ebseprap\u00eb, oborri \u00ebsht\u00eb i nj\u00ebjti, e nj\u00ebjta ndjenj\u00eb, \u00ebsht\u00eb shpija jote. Nuk je n\u2019shpi t\u2019huj, nuk je n\u2019banes\u00eb t\u2019serbit p\u00ebr shembull. Di\u00e7ka q\u00eb s\u2019\u00ebsht\u00eb e jotja nuk t\u00eb ngroh.<\/p>\n

O.H.: Edhe t\u2019bon me e vler\u00ebsu akoma m\u00eb shum\u00eb.<\/p>\n

A: Normal, normal.<\/p>\n

O.H.: A t\u2019bje shum\u00eb me e kujtu koh\u00ebn e… qoft\u00eb koh\u00ebn si refugjat\u00eb kur keni q\u00ebndru, qoft\u00eb koh\u00ebn ta zajm\u00eb kur jeni kthy edhe derisa jeni shp\u00ebrngul n\u00eb shpi, qoft\u00eb edhe vet sa gjat\u00eb ni dite e kujton ose sa ka ndikim kjo histori n\u00eb jet\u00ebn tonde tash?<\/p>\n

A: M\u2019bjen gjith\u00eb me e kujtu k\u00ebt\u00eb koh\u00ebn. P\u00ebr shembull, \u00e7do 1 prill, n\u00eb lagje p\u00ebrkujtohen viktimat q\u00eb jon vra k\u00ebtu. Gjith\u00eb m\u2019kujtohet ajo nat\u00eb, q\u00eb i shihshim flak\u00ebt tu dal\u00eb se pasi i vrisshin edhe i digjshin shpit\u00eb e personave q\u00eb i kan\u00eb vra me i hup gjurm\u00ebt.<\/p>\n

O.H.: M\u2019paska ik\u00eb ajo \u00e7ka ndoshta gjat\u00eb rr\u00ebfimit jemi marr\u00eb me pytje tjera, po po i rikthena kur u kthyt n\u00eb Gjakov\u00eb edhe e pat\u00eb q\u00eb lagjja e juj tash mo nuk osht e nj\u00ebjta, sht\u00ebpit\u00eb jan\u00eb djeg, etj. etj. A e kuptut q\u00eb ndoshta pas jush ka pas ni aksident tjet\u00ebr, ni vrasje tjet\u00ebr, ni plagosje ose l\u00ebndim tjet\u00ebr, dikush e ka humb ma shum\u00eb se sa gjanat materiale apo keni mbijetu t\u00eb gjith\u00eb edhe\u00a0 para 1 prillit kan\u00eb qen\u00eb ato vrasje? Apo ka vazhdu edhe m\u00eb von\u00eb? N\u2019lagjen e juj po flas.<\/p>\n

A: Ato vrasje kan\u00eb vazhdu. N\u00eb lagjen ton\u00eb s\u2019ka pas mo kush; t\u00eb gjith\u00eb jemi dal p\u00ebr Shqipni at\u00eb dit\u00eb, m\u00eb 1 prill. Kan\u00eb vazhdu vrasjet, kan\u00eb vazhdu n\u00ebp\u00ebr lagjet tjera, si p\u00ebr shembull n\u00eb lagjen Qabrati, n\u00eb maj. Jon shum\u00eb vet\u00eb t\u00eb zhdukun. Ka edhe n\u00eb Bllok t\u2019ri, n\u00eb lagjen Siera, ka shum\u00eb t\u00eb zhdukun, t\u00eb vram. Ka vazhdu n\u00ebp\u00ebr lagjet tjera. N\u2019lagjen ton\u00eb t\u2019gjith\u00eb at\u00eb dit\u00eb kena dal\u00eb p\u00ebr Shqipni p\u00ebraf\u00ebrsisht t\u00eb gjith\u00eb. Ni person ka nejt k\u00ebtu, krejt koh\u00ebn. Ai s\u2019ka mujt, ka qen\u00eb i vjet\u00ebr shum\u00eb dhe nuk ka dasht me ik\u00eb. E grun e ka pas\u00eb t\u00eb Bosnj\u00ebs. Ata burr\u00eb e gru kan\u00eb q\u00ebndru k\u00ebtu.<\/p>\n

O.H.: Dmth jan\u00eb t\u00eb vetmit?<\/p>\n

A: Po. Ka q\u00ebndru edhe nj\u00eb tjet\u00ebr, o kon i komunitetit egjiptian. Edhe ai ka q\u00ebndru k\u00ebtu. k\u00ebrkush tjet\u00ebr.<\/p>\n

O.H.: Dmth edhe i gjet\u00ebt ata aty?<\/p>\n

A: I gjet\u00ebm. K\u00ebt\u00eb kojshin\u00eb i cili ka qen\u00eb i vjet\u00ebr, ky ka pas\u00eb ndrru jet\u00eb, ka vdek, gjat\u00eb koh\u00ebs s\u00eb luft\u00ebs. E gjet\u00ebm vet\u00ebm gruan e vet.<\/p>\n

O.H.: Cilat kan\u00eb qen\u00eb raportet e juaja me ta, q\u00eb kan\u00eb jetu gjat\u00eb koh\u00ebs s\u00eb luft\u00ebs edhe ju si refugjat\u00eb? Cilat ishin ato shk\u00ebmbimet e para t\u00eb juaja? A pat\u00ebt ni reflektim tjet\u00ebr? Ose a bashk\u00ebndjet\u00eb? \u00c7ka ju tregoi? Ndoshta po t\u00eb pys p\u00ebr dik\u00eb tjet\u00ebr po meqen\u00ebse bohet fjal\u00eb edhe p\u00ebr sht\u00ebpin\u00eb e juj, ajo \u00ebsht\u00eb d\u00ebshmitare po mendoj e pamjes.<\/p>\n

A: N\u00eb at\u00eb koh\u00eb, prej dat\u00ebs 2 prill kur jena dal na e deri m\u00eb 13-14 qershor kur jon dal\u00eb ata, nuk e di, ka qen\u00eb ushtria k\u00ebtu. Jo policia po ushtria e rregullt, n\u00eb lagjen ton\u00eb. E kan\u00eb bo si stacion. E krejt koh\u00ebn ka nejt k\u00ebtu ushtria. Kan\u00eb bisedu djali i vet me t\u00eb gjat\u00eb koh\u00ebs s\u2019luft\u00ebs, ka thon \u201cna run ushtria, s\u2019po na bojn kurgjo, po na kqyrin\u201d. N\u00eb at\u00eb moment o kon mir\u00eb kjo lagje. E policia, ose paramilitar\u00ebt, ata jon kon shum\u00eb ma t\u2019kqi. Ata nuk kan\u00eb vet a je fmi, a je i vjet\u00ebr, a je gru a burr\u00eb, t\u2019kan\u00eb vra.<\/p>\n

O.H.: Ata q\u00eb kan\u00eb ardh\u00eb edhe ju kan\u00eb d\u00ebbu prej familjes s\u00eb juaj, fjalin\u00eb e par\u00eb q\u00eb e the n\u00eb fillim, a i kujton qoft\u00eb edhe si pamje? A t\u00eb ngjan naj ndjenj\u00eb t\u00eb caktume tash?<\/p>\n

A: Ai q\u00eb na tha me dal\u00eb p\u00ebr Shqipni q\u00eb ka qen\u00eb k\u00ebtu i lagjes, serb…<\/p>\n

O.H.: Dmth ka qen\u00eb i njohur p\u00ebr ju?<\/p>\n

A: Ka qen\u00eb i njohur p\u00ebr ne. Emrin ia di, mbiemri s\u2019po m\u2019kujtohet p\u00ebr momentin. Nenad e ka emrin. Ai na tha \u201cb\u00ebni mir\u00eb t\u2019ikni. Ikni sot\u201d. Sikur dojke me na nimu. N\u00eb ora 7 n\u2019m\u00ebngjes un\u00eb dola jasht\u00eb. N\u00eb ora 7 n\u2019m\u00ebngjes e kam pa Nenadin tu u kthy. Dmth kta shkojshin gjith\u00eb nat\u00ebn kallshin shpija, bojshin vrasje, sidomos ky, q\u00eb e shihshim krejt koh\u00ebn tu dal me arm\u00eb kallash n\u00eb dor\u00eb. Se ky ishte shum\u00eb i lodhun, gjith\u00eb nat\u00ebn pa gjum\u00eb, e ngrehke kallashin zhag p\u00ebr toke. Gjith\u00eb na p\u00ebrsh\u00ebndetke, sa her\u00eb na shike. At\u00eb nat\u00eb veq na kqyri, m\u2019kqyri edhe vazhdoi rrug\u00ebn. Un\u00eb mendoj se ky ka marr pjes\u00eb n\u00eb k\u00ebto masakrat e 1 prillit n\u00eb lagjen ton\u00eb.<\/p>\n

O.H.: Edhe n\u00eb rastin me tezen e juj, a mendon q\u00eb ka qen\u00eb njo prej protagonist\u00ebve?<\/p>\n

A: Ka qen\u00eb nj\u00eb prej tyre, po.<\/p>\n

O.H.: Dhe mendon q\u00eb…Qysh e sheh k\u00ebt\u00eb faktin q\u00eb nuk t\u2019ka p\u00ebrsh\u00ebndet n\u00eb rrug\u00eb? A mendon q\u00eb ka ndje keqardhje p\u00ebr ty q\u00eb ta ka vra tezen apo si paralajm\u00ebrim, si n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb k\u00ebrc\u00ebnuese?<\/p>\n

A: Nuk e di. S\u2019besoj q\u00eb ka ndje keqardhje. Po gjithmon\u00eb m\u2019ka p\u00ebrsh\u00ebndet, na ka p\u00ebrsh\u00ebndet t\u00eb gjith\u00ebve aty n\u00eb lagje se ka qen\u00eb ni koh\u00eb t\u2019gjat\u00eb kojshi me ne, shum\u00eb i af\u00ebrt. Po n\u00eb at\u00eb moment nuk e di a prej keqardhjes a \u00e7ka. Nuk na p\u00ebrsh\u00ebndeti. Nashta edhe \u00e7ka ka pa ky, \u00e7ka ka bo ky ni nat\u00eb p\u00ebrpara sikur ka ndje keqardhje, mir\u00eb e ki.<\/p>\n

O.H.: Un\u00eb thjesht\u00eb po sugjeroj p\u00ebr me e pas sa ma t\u00eb kjart\u00eb dmth at\u00eb sken\u00eb p\u00ebr ju, pa dasht me jap indikacion.<\/p>\n

A: Na e pat\u00ebm msu kta, se sa her\u00eb vike n\u2019m\u00ebngjes, shkojke n\u2019shpi t\u2019vet edhe flejke n\u2019gjum\u00eb. At\u00eb dit\u00eb kur u kthy prej asaj nate, shkoi e murr kafen dhe dul jasht\u00eb. Rrike krejt koh\u00ebn jasht\u00eb, nuk shkoi me flejt n\u2019gjum\u00eb. Pastaj u afru me ni kojshi aty. Tha q\u00eb boni mir\u00eb t\u2019dilni p\u00ebr Shqipni. Rrug\u00ebs, sapo dul\u00ebm prej oborreve tona, gjith\u00eb populli aty i lagjes ton\u00eb, erdh\u00ebn do polic\u00eb. Ata ishin shqiptar\u00eb po ishin me policin\u00eb serbe. Edhe ata kan\u00eb bo masakra n\u2019shqiptar\u00eb. Mush Jakup i thirrshin. Ata e kan\u00eb mbiemrin Ibra. Nuk e di a jan\u00eb gjall\u00eb a kan\u00eb vdek\u00eb ata. Ata erdh\u00ebn, bisedun me k\u00ebt\u00eb serbin e lagjes edhe vazhdun rrug\u00ebn. Na vazhdum p\u00ebr Shqipni n\u00eb rrug\u00eb dyt\u00ebsore. S\u2019na lan\u00eb me shku n\u00eb rrug\u00eb kryesore kah ishin bo masakrat. Na dojshim me shku anej p\u00ebr me e pa edhe shpin\u00eb e tezes, mi thirr edhe ata. Nuk na lan\u00eb anej, na \u00e7un ni rrug\u00eb tjet\u00ebr se e dishin q\u00eb anej i shohim kalljet e vrasjet, e \u00e7ka kan\u00eb bo.<\/p>\n

O.H.: A mendon q\u00eb ka qen\u00eb e q\u00ebllimshme, p\u00ebrve\u00e7 \u2013 se po e kuptoj q\u00eb esenca \u00ebsht\u00eb me i fsheh ato skena \u2013 po a mendon q\u00eb ka qen\u00eb edhe ni arsye p\u00ebr me e lon nifar pengu te ju, q\u00eb mos me dit \u00e7ka ka ndodh?<\/p>\n

A: Mundet me kon arsye edhe kjo, po mendoj q\u00eb arsyeja kryesore ka qen\u00eb mos mi pa se kan\u00eb pa ata t\u00eb lagjes tyne ma af\u00ebr q\u00eb ishin aty. I kan\u00eb pa viktimat n\u00ebp\u00ebr rrug\u00eb, i kan\u00eb pa fmit\u00eb t\u00eb vran\u00eb n\u2019rrug\u00eb, i kan\u00eb pa sht\u00ebpijat e kallne, kan\u00eb d\u00ebgju se i kan\u00eb vra njer\u00ebzit edhe i kan\u00eb kall masnej. Ato skena s\u2019na kan\u00eb lon me shku mi pa anej, na kan\u00eb \u00e7u ni rrug\u00eb tjet\u00ebr.<\/p>\n

O.H.: Personi n\u00eb fjal\u00eb, q\u00eb that\u00eb q\u00eb ju ka udh\u00ebzu me u largu prej lagjes edhe me u largu prej Kosov\u00ebs, ju that\u00eb q\u00eb e keni njoft\u00eb ma her\u00ebt edhe ju ka p\u00ebrsh\u00ebndet\u00eb po sa ka qen\u00eb i njohur p\u00ebr ju edhe kur jeni ardh\u00eb, n\u00ebse e keni taku? A e keni taku?<\/p>\n

A: Jo, kur jena ardh na ai so kon k\u00ebtu. S\u2019ka pas serb\u00eb hi\u00e7 kur jena ardh, t\u2019gjith\u00eb jon kon t\u2019shp\u00ebrngulun.<\/p>\n

O.H.: Okay. Dmth nuk e keni as iden\u00eb ma t\u2019vog\u00ebl..<\/p>\n

A: Jo, nuk e dim\u00eb as kah osht, as a osht gjall\u00eb. Ai n\u00eb at\u00eb koh\u00eb ka qen\u00eb ndoshta 50 vje\u00e7. Tash nuk e di a \u00ebsht\u00eb gjall\u00eb a ka vdek, ku jeton, nuk e di. S\u2019kemi informata p\u00ebr t\u00eb.<\/p>\n

O.H.: U p\u00ebrpoqa me e bo nifar krahasimi qoft\u00eb mes ndjenj\u00ebs s\u00eb shpis\u00eb qoft\u00eb mes jet\u00ebs s\u00eb juj tash edhe at\u00ebher\u00eb si fmi. Po \u00e7ka mbet pik\u00eb pastaj ka qen\u00eb, po mduhet me dit\u00eb qysh e keni marr\u00eb veten. Se ju i keni pa disa skena ose e keni kuptu tash \u00e7ka \u00ebsht\u00eb lufta, po masi erdh\u00ebt prap\u00eb k\u00ebtu ju keni qen\u00eb prap\u00eb fmi. Konsideroheni prap\u00eb adoleshent ndoshta gjat\u00eb vitit 2000-2001-2003 e tutje. Po qysh e more forc\u00ebn me vazhdu me jetu sidomos tu e dit q\u00eb nuk ishte as shpija jote edhe nuk je i sigurt?<\/p>\n

A: U m\u00ebsum me at\u00eb jet\u00eb, u m\u00ebsum me jetu edhe n\u2019banes\u00eb t\u2019huj. Kur i shihshim njer\u00ebzit q\u00eb i kan\u00eb hup t\u2019gjitha, jo ve\u00e7 gj\u00ebrat materiale, kan\u00eb hup edhe familjet e prap\u00eb vazhdojn\u00eb t\u2019jetojn\u00eb, nuk ki \u00e7ka bon. Jeta vazhdon.<\/p>\n

O.H.: Edhe ju keni humb dik\u00eb t\u2019familjes s\u00eb juj edhe ve\u00e7 e dini. Po n\u00eb shkoll\u00eb, a e kishit motivin qoft\u00eb edhe me msu tu e dit q\u00eb ju e keni pas ni p\u00ebrvoj\u00eb, nifar tip shkollimi apo improvizimi edhe n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri?<\/p>\n

A: Jo kemi qen\u00eb n\u00ebp\u00ebr shkolla t\u00eb rregullta. Filloi shkolla e rregullt n\u2019shtator po \u00e7ka kom pa un\u00eb aty, shumica e klas\u00ebve \u2013 un\u00eb se kom pas at\u00eb n\u00eb klas\u00eb teme \u2013 po shumica e klas\u00ebve tjera kan\u00eb pas ka ni lule n\u2019bank\u00eb, se mungojke ni fmi, ose ish i vram\u00eb ose ish shp\u00ebrngul n\u00eb shtete tjera. Kish mungesa t\u00eb fmive shum\u00eb. Po ka pas edhe shum\u00eb fmi n\u00ebp\u00ebr klas\u00eb q\u00eb kan\u00eb qen\u00eb t\u00eb vram\u00eb ose t\u00eb zhdukun.<\/p>\n

O.H.: Po prej stafit, qoft\u00eb edhe prej atyne luleve, a ka qen\u00eb ni lule e adresune p\u00ebr ni shokun tond ose ni shoqen tonde ose dikon q\u00eb e ke njoft?<\/p>\n

A: Kom pas shok\u00eb t\u2019lagjes te familja Vesa. Ai \u00ebsht\u00eb gjall\u00eb, i vetmi an\u00ebtar i familjes q\u00eb ka pshtu i gjall\u00eb. Ka qen\u00eb i plagosun. At\u00eb e kom pas shok. Normal, tezen e p\u00ebrmena.<\/p>\n

O.H.: Po.<\/p>\n

A: Shok\u00eb t\u00eb af\u00ebrm tjer\u00eb nuk kom pas.<\/p>\n

O.H.: Meqen\u00ebse n\u00eb shkoll\u00eb e besoj kur je edhe me fmi tjer\u00eb e me gjeneratat e juja e keni ni ndjenj\u00eb besoj pak ma ndryshe sesa me dikon ma t\u2019rritur ose familjar po padyshim ju kan\u00eb mungu edhe k\u00ebta fmi q\u00eb jeni m\u00ebsu me i pa deri at\u00ebher\u00eb, qoft\u00eb edhe n\u00eb paralele ose…<\/p>\n

A: I kom njoft, p\u00ebr shembull n\u2019shkoll\u00eb n\u00eb paralelen teme kom njoft njer\u00ebz po nuk i kom pas shoqni.<\/p>\n

O.H.: A ka mungu dikush prej arsimtar\u00ebve?<\/p>\n

A: Prej arsimtar\u00ebve, e di ni arsimtar ka qen\u00eb i plagosun gjat\u00eb luft\u00ebs. P\u00ebr t\u2019vran\u00eb nuk e di q\u00eb ka pas\u00eb naj arsimtar t\u2019vran\u00eb. Kan\u00eb qen\u00eb komplet stafi.<\/p>\n

O.H.: Dmth ka vazhdu m\u00ebsimi?<\/p>\n

A: Po. Ka qen\u00eb i plagosun n\u2019fillim t\u2019luft\u00ebs, deri kur filloi shkolla.<\/p>\n

O.H.: Sa ke qen\u00eb i motivum me m\u00ebsu? Sa e ke marr ashtu si obligim…ose ndoshta sa ke pas motiv pas gjith\u00eb k\u00ebtyne storjeve, pas gjith\u00eb luleve q\u00eb i ke pa n\u00eb banka?<\/p>\n

A: \u00cbsht\u00eb normale se nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb ai motivi i madh p\u00ebr me msu se sapo u kthym prej Shqipnis\u00eb, e ishte luft\u00eb. Po me koh\u00eb edhe u msum edhe vazhdum normalisht me qen\u00eb si tanaher\u00ebt qysh kemi qen\u00eb. Fillum prap\u00eb at\u00eb vit ku e kemi l\u00ebn\u00eb, dmth i ka ra klasa e 7 me kon. E vazhdum normalisht edhe me k\u00ebto mungesa t\u00eb nx\u00ebn\u00ebsve, profesora s\u2019ka pas t\u00eb vram po ka pas shum\u00eb nx\u00ebn\u00ebs q\u00eb kan\u00eb qen\u00eb t\u00eb vram\u00eb n\u00ebp\u00ebr lagje t\u00eb ndryshme.<\/p>\n

O.H.: A keni organizu qoft\u00eb di\u00e7ka p\u00ebrve\u00e7 luleve, po mendoj p\u00ebrkujtime, ndoshta pas ni viti ose dy vitesh e keni kujtu prap\u00eb at\u00eb sken\u00ebn?<\/p>\n

A: P\u00ebr shembull ka qen\u00eb rivarrimi i k\u00ebtyre personave. Kemi qen\u00eb krejt shkolla me kurora, me lule atje n\u00eb rivarrim. Kemi vazhdu prej shkoll\u00ebs deri n\u00eb varreza n\u00eb kam t\u00eb gjith\u00eb. \u00cbsht\u00eb ni rrug\u00eb e gjat\u00eb, nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb af\u00ebr, me bashk\u00ebndje me familjar\u00ebt q\u00eb i kan\u00eb humb ata. Aty edhe \u00e7do dat\u00eb, \u00e7do p\u00ebrvjetor, p\u00ebr 1 prill, shkojm\u00eb, i p\u00ebrkujtojm\u00eb, ndezim qirinj te shpia e tyne. Plus n\u00eb varreza presim n\u00eb p\u00ebrkujtim t\u00eb tyne.<\/p>\n

O.H.: Prap\u00eb me u kthy te ajo q\u00eb personalisht e keni p\u00ebrjetu, gjithmon\u00eb tu e krahasu me ngjarjet ma kolektive ose t\u00eb p\u00ebrbashk\u00ebt, e ndjeni ndoshta edhe at\u00eb motivimin e juj q\u00eb po e v\u00ebrej kur po thu \u201cka ma keq, ka ma keq\u201d po me u ndal me e pa edhe e juaja nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb pak se p\u00ebr ni jav\u00eb t\u00eb shkurt\u00eb ndoshta dy vje\u00e7are t\u2019ka ra me i ndrru disa lokacione edhe t\u00eb ni klase, fillimisht si nxan\u00ebs n\u00eb Gjakov\u00eb pastaj si refugjat n\u00eb Shqip\u00ebri, prap\u00eb si nxan\u00ebs k\u00ebtu me mungesa t\u00eb koleg\u00ebve ose nxansave tjer\u00eb edhe me ni situat\u00eb komplet t\u00eb ndryshme p\u00ebr ni koh\u00eb shum\u00eb t\u00eb shkurt. Nj\u00ebjt\u00eb ashtu ju ka ndodh me e ndrru adres\u00ebn ku keni jetu p\u00ebr ni koh\u00eb t\u2019shkurt. Krejt kjo periudh\u00eb \u00e7ka ju ka bo tash si ni person i rritur, \u00e7ka t\u2019ka shtu n\u00eb identitetin tond, n\u00eb karakterin ose n\u00eb form\u00ebsimin tond, n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00ebn qysh ti e sheh jet\u00ebn? \u00c7ka t\u2019ka ndiku p\u00ebr shembull kur don me marr ni vendim ose di\u00e7ka? A ka di\u00e7ka q\u00eb e rikujton edhe thu q\u00eb muj mi bo ose nuk muj mi bo p\u00ebr shkak t\u00eb k\u00ebsaj?<\/p>\n

A: Lufta, un\u00eb kom qen\u00eb i ri n\u00eb at\u00eb koh\u00eb po t\u2019b\u00ebn m\u00eb t\u2019fort\u00eb, sidomos kur ke dik\u00eb q\u00eb e ke humb, vazhdon prap\u00eb m\u00eb fort. Se di…<\/p>\n

O.H.: Okay. At\u00ebher\u00eb mos me ju mundu ma tep\u00ebr, n\u00ebse ka di\u00e7ka q\u00eb kishe dasht me shtu, di\u00e7ka q\u00eb ka mungu qoft\u00eb n\u00eb pytjet e mia, qoft\u00eb…<\/p>\n

A: U mundova me tregu gjith\u00eb ato \u00e7ka i kujtoj gjat\u00eb luft\u00ebs, gjat\u00eb asaj kohe, faleminderit p\u00ebr intervist\u00ebn.<\/p>\n

O.H.: Gjithashtu, shum\u00eb faleminderit. Ka qen\u00eb nder p\u00ebr ne.<\/p>\n

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