{"id":1139,"date":"2021-01-21T00:09:21","date_gmt":"2021-01-21T00:09:21","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/museumofrefugees-ks.org\/?p=1139"},"modified":"2021-08-19T09:55:15","modified_gmt":"2021-08-19T09:55:15","slug":"lule-hasani-tahiri","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/museumofrefugees-ks.org\/lule-hasani-tahiri\/","title":{"rendered":"Lule Hasani Tahiri"},"content":{"rendered":"

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[\/vc_column_text][\/vc_column][\/vc_row][vc_row][vc_column][vc_column_text]Latra Dem\u00e7i (intervistuesja)<\/p>\n

Lule Tahiri (e intervistuara)<\/p>\n

Akronimet:LT= Latra Dema\u00e7i, LT= Lule Tahiri<\/p>\n

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LD: Mir\u00ebdita tezja Lule.<\/p>\n

LT: Mir\u00ebdita.<\/p>\n

LD: Pyetja e par\u00eb p\u00ebr ty \u00ebsht\u00eb a mundesh me m\u00eb tregu di\u00e7ka p\u00ebr veten, k\u00ebshtu n\u00eb p\u00ebrgjith\u00ebsi di\u00e7ka q\u00eb zakonisht ki qef njer\u00ebzit me dit\u00eb p\u00ebr ty?<\/p>\n

LT: \u00c7fr\u00eb t\u00eb them\u2026? Un\u00eb prej natyres jam tip shum\u00eb i shoqnuesh\u00ebm, edhe t\u00eb tjer\u00ebt, s\u2019po e them\u00eb p\u00ebr veti, m\u00eb thojn\u00eb q\u00eb shperndaj kshtu kogja pozitivitet.<\/p>\n

LD: E konfirmoj kto 100%.<\/p>\n

LT: Qajo \u00ebsht\u00eb qe m\u00eb karakterizon d.m.th edhe po du me pa krejt\u00eb qe jam e lumtur, q\u00eb s\u2019i t\u00eb ta them?<\/p>\n

LD: Don me shpernda di\u00e7ka pozitive!<\/p>\n

LT: Po, po, definitivisht.<\/p>\n

LD: Shum\u00eb \u2026<\/p>\n

LT: Thank You!<\/p>\n

LD: Me ni fjla\u00eb ose dy qysh po nihesh p\u00ebr nitervisten q\u00eb kena me bo sot?<\/p>\n

LT: P\u00ebr intervist\u00ebn, mir\u00eb, domethan\u00eb nejse mesa e morra vesh dmth bohet fjal\u00eb edhe p\u00ebr periudh\u00ebn e luft\u00ebs, q\u00eb s\u2019jan\u00eb kujtimet ma t\u00eb mira, nashta \u00ebsh\u00eb periudha m\u00eb e v\u00ebshtir\u00eb e jetes sime, po, sido qe te jet\u00eb duhet me i rikujtu koh\u00eb pas kohe.<\/p>\n

LD: E shkuar e harruar a?<\/p>\n

LT: Ashtu pra.<\/p>\n

LD: Ateher\u00eb po i him\u00eb kshtu tem\u00ebs, mir\u00ebpo ngadal- ngadale jo bam bam.<\/p>\n

LT: Patjet\u00ebr.<\/p>\n

LD: Si e mban mend rrethanat e asaj kohe qe kan\u00eb qu deri te lufta, dmth ti qysh i man\u00eb mend, rrethanat para fillimit t\u00ebluft\u00ebs q\u00eb kan\u00eb qu deri qaty.<\/p>\n

LT: Un\u00eb mbaj mend shum\u00eb para lufte, domethan\u00eb se qysh se n\u00eb mosh\u00ebn 7 vje\u00e7are kur kam\u00eb fillu edhe ma her\u00ebt bile kam\u00eb fillu n\u00eb klasen e par\u00eb, si 6 vje\u00e7are e gjysm\u00eb, me 7 vjet dmth kan\u00eb qen\u00eb demostratat e vitit 1981 q\u00eb un\u00eb i maj\u00eb mend shum\u00eb mir\u00eb, se na p\u00ebrcjellke m\u00ebsuesja gati n\u00eb shpi, se u frikojshim normal. Bile m\u00eb kujtohet nj\u00eb parull\u00eb q\u00eb ka qen\u00eb interesante, q\u00eb un\u00eb at\u00ebher\u00eb s\u2019e kisha iden\u00eb \u00e7ka \u00ebsht\u00eb \u201c Republik\u00eb, Kushtetut\u00eb jo me hat\u00ebr jo me luft\u00eb\u201d. Edhe m\u00eb kujtohet q\u00eb kur pata ardh\u00eb n\u00eb shpi e pata pyt\u00eb baben \u00e7ka \u00ebsht\u00eb kjo, kush po tut\u00eb, kush po na tut\u00eb, se nuk e kuptojsha, e lidhsha me frik\u00eb dmth.<\/p>\n

E qashtu mandej, po qato gjithmon\u00eb na ka p\u00ebrcjell qajo situat\u00eb, thuja se tan\u00eb koh\u00ebn ka qen\u00eb e jasht\u00ebzakonshme. At\u00ebher\u00eb n\u00eb vitin \u201881 e di ka qen\u00eb or\u00eb policore, prej or\u00ebs 19:30 n\u00eb mbr\u00ebmje s\u2019kemi guxu me dal\u00eb, deri n\u00eb mengjes s\u2019e di sa ka qen\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Kan\u00eb qen\u00eb disa vite me than\u00eb pak ma latente ashtu, mir\u00ebpo qet\u00ebsi jo. Ka pas\u00eb nonstop provokime, ka pas\u00eb mandej n\u00eb vitin \u201890 ma i pat\u00ebn largu me t\u00eb madhe njer\u00ebzit prej pune, un\u00eb at\u00ebhere kam\u00eb qen\u00eb n\u00eb shkoll\u00eb t\u00eb mesme.<\/p>\n

Edhe situata po vq shkojke tu u tensionu secil\u00ebn dit\u00eb m\u00eb tep\u00ebr, edhe me than\u00eb t\u00eb drejt\u00ebn e pritshim veq nuk\u00a0 e dishim kur po shp\u00ebrthen.<\/p>\n

Edhe po mandej n\u00eb koh\u00ebn e fundit ajo u ba shum\u00eb e dukshme, mandej ka qen\u00eb nj\u00eb koh\u00eb gjat\u00eb viteve po thom\u00eb \u201891, \u201892, \u201893 ka vazhdu, ka qen\u00eb hala, kemi qen\u00eb hala n\u00ebn Jogusllavi si krahin\u00eb autonome, q\u00eb shkojshin hala ushtar\u00eb, fmit\u00eb, t\u00eb rit\u00eb. Shum\u00eb shpesh i kan\u00eb kthy n\u00eb arkivole, a po din pat\u00ebn fillu ato tensionet shum\u00eb me u rrit\u00eb, shum\u00eb inskenime, shum\u00eb edhe po mandej, n\u00eb \u201898 shin ve\u00e7 shp\u00ebrthej.<\/p>\n

LD: N\u00eb mosh\u00ebn dometh\u00ebn\u00eb, si adoleshente kur i ke pas\u00eb k\u00ebto padrejt\u00ebsina e shtypje e cenime, domethan\u00eb qekjo shtypja sistematike, a e ke ndje te vetja ashtu nj\u00eb far\u00eb vullneti p\u00ebr aktiviz\u00ebm?<\/p>\n

LT: E kam\u00eb ndje, edhe kam\u00eb qen\u00eb pjes\u00ebmarr\u00ebse n\u00eb t\u00eb gjitha demonstratat. Se at\u00ebher\u00eb nuk u quajshin protesta, demonstrata se me t\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00eb ka qen\u00eb demonstrim. Ashiqare demostrojshe p\u00ebr paknaq\u00ebsit\u00eb q\u00eb ndodhshin. Edhe gazrat lot\u00ebsjellsa, me ndjekje t\u00eb policive me, i kom\u00eb p\u00ebrjetu krejt\u00eb, edhe qaq sa kom\u00eb mujt me qen\u00eb pjes\u00eb aktive e shoqnis\u00eb kom\u00eb qen\u00eb, p\u00ebr at\u00eb koh\u00eb \u00ebsth\u00eb fjala, n\u00eb suaza t\u00eb qat\u2019hershit po.<\/p>\n

Edhe u shihke se nonstop ajo shkojke tu u p\u00ebrkeq\u00ebsu, edhe e kemi dit\u00eb q\u00eb nj\u00ebdit\u00eb, se nuk shkojke ndryshe na u ngushtu rrethi q\u00eb thojn\u00eb.<\/p>\n

LD: Kur merr pjes\u00eb qishtu n\u00eb demostrata nj\u00ebher\u00eb ndihesh q\u00eb nuk po ki impakt n\u00eb nj\u00eb far m\u00ebnyre, mir\u00ebpo kur ke qen\u00eb ti pjes\u00eb pjes\u00eb e qetyre demostratave, aktivizmave a je ndje q\u00eb je tu e bo ni ndryshim, q\u00eb je tu luftu p\u00ebr nj\u00eb kauz\u00eb.<\/p>\n

LT: Po ti mendojshe thell\u00eb n\u00eb vetvete, po qysh e the edhe ti ish pak\u00eb probleml, tu doke q\u00eb kurgjo sje ka munesh me bo. Nonstop delshe, organizojshe demostrata ti, t\u00eb fundit q\u00eb e kujtoj ka qen\u00eb viti \u201897 ndoshta, Tetori. Po po, sigurt\u00eb \u201897 ka qen\u00eb. Demostrata e madhe e student\u00ebve.<\/p>\n

M\u00eb kujtohet shum\u00eb mir\u00eb se kam\u00eb qen\u00eb shtat\u00ebzane me djalin, kam\u00eb qen\u00eb pjes\u00eb e demostrat\u00ebs.<\/p>\n

Veq pata mrri me ik\u00eb, haha, n\u00eb nj\u00eb moment.<\/p>\n

LD: Qajo, edhe ajo \u00ebsht\u00eb arritje.<\/p>\n

LT: Po, po. Me t\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00eb po.<\/p>\n

E qajo ka qen\u00eb e fundit, edhe mo mandej n\u00eb \u201898 n\u00eb shkurt n\u00ebse s\u2019gaboj ka fillu lufta kshtu tamom q\u00eb numrohet si luft\u00eb, se ato kan\u00eb qen\u00eb sulmet e JASHARAJVE n\u00eb janar e ma heret ni here. Po shkurti m\u00eb kujothet ma mir\u00eb si sot, nashta 28 shkurti, n\u00ebse jam\u00eb mir\u00eb me data, se bajagi maj mend po ndodh\u00eb q\u00eb i harroj. Se e di q\u00eb von\u00eb s\u2019ka pas\u00eb edhe dy muj\u00eb m\u00eb ka lind\u00eb djali. Edhe stres, stres ka qen\u00eb edhe at\u2019her.<\/p>\n

LD: Bash qetu deshta me dal\u00eb, \u00e7ka ka qen\u00eb specifikisht eksperienca jote personale gjat\u00eb luft\u00ebs, dometh\u00ebn\u00eb \u00e7ka ka ndodh\u00eb kur kan\u00eb dasht\u00eb me ju largu juve?<\/p>\n

LD: Po k\u00ebshtu tash, une po them\u00eb n\u00eb fakt, po Dreni ka lind\u00eb me 26 prill t\u00eb vitit \u201898. Edhe neve mandej na kan\u00eb largu me 31 mars t\u00eb vitit \u201899 prej shpijave. Po kjo nuk do me than\u00eb q\u00eb na kemi qen\u00eb t\u00eb leht\u00eb se n\u00eb ton\u00eb koh\u00ebn lufta ka qen\u00eb tu u zhvillu.<\/p>\n

Domethan\u00eb dy muj para se une me lind\u00eb djalin, un\u00eb e kam\u00eb pas\u00eb stresin, ankthin n\u00eb secil\u00ebn nat\u00eb. Kur po vijn\u00eb, kur po na vrajn\u00eb, kur po na p\u00ebrzajn\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Edhe mrrijta me lind\u00eb djalin, edhe ai i boni gati, jo gati po 11 muj i ka pas kur na kan\u00eb debu mandej prej shpive. Dhe secila dit\u00eb ka qen\u00eb stres n\u00eb vete, se ku po na qojn\u00eb. N\u00eb mal, me f\u00ebmij\u00eb t\u00eb vegj\u00ebl, vajz\u00ebne kom\u00eb pas at\u00ebhere 4vje\u00e7e, se kta 3 vjet i kan\u00eb nd\u00ebrmjet edhe mandej me 31 mars dmth veq kan\u00eb ardh\u00eb n\u00eb shpi.<\/p>\n

Qysh kemi qen\u00eb n\u00eb pik\u00eb t\u00eb dit\u00ebs, policia, ushtria, u mush aborri, me dal\u00eb , ku me shku?, s\u2019po na intereson.<\/p>\n

Duhet me dal.<\/p>\n

Une i pata bo do tesha gati e sene se e disha se ka me ndodh\u00eb, edhe po une e kom\u00eb mendu qe kan\u00eb me na qit\u00eb n\u00eb mal kemi me dal\u00eb, a din\u00eb si tjer\u00ebt q\u00eb dilshin. Po jo, ata mandej qashtu n\u00eb m\u00ebnyr\u00eb t\u00eb organizum\u00eb na kan\u00eb qit\u00eb n\u00eb rrug\u00eb, edhe prej rrug\u00ebs ata ku t\u00eb kan\u00eb than\u00eb me shku, jo ti ku ke dasht\u00eb me shku. S\u2019t kan\u00eb lan\u00eb me marr\u00eb vetur\u00eb, s\u2019t kan\u00eb lan\u00eb kurgja.<\/p>\n

Qaty qa ke mujt\u00eb n\u00eb shpi do tesha p\u00ebr fmi, do qumsht p\u00ebr djalin.<\/p>\n

Edhe na kan\u00eb qu drejt stacionit t\u00eb trenit n\u00eb Prishtin\u00eb k\u00ebtu. Edhe ata nj\u00eb far lloj ekskursioni, se jo Shurtcut-a gjithkund me ba. Jo jo, krejt\u00eb rrug\u00ebs teposht\u00eb e mandej me u ngjit\u00eb te nalt\u00eb ka menza e studentave e mandej me shku teposht\u00eb ka santea, ka Dardania edhe na kan\u00eb qu atje.<\/p>\n

I pytshim policin\u00eb, un\u00eb vet i kom\u00eb pyt\u00eb: a muj me dit\u00eb ku po na qoni, edhe njoni prej tyre tha \u201cPo, n\u00eb stadium me ju vra!\u201d edhe qaty e kom\u00eb pas\u00eb psu nj\u00ebfar\u00eb shoku, muj me t\u00eb than\u00eb disa minuta nuk mujsha me marr\u00eb veten, se ish tashti sikleti, po n\u00eb statium e po na vrajn\u00eb, okej.<\/p>\n

Po tash, a rri une me gjith thmi, me m\u00eb vra, me dek, me shku e me u rahatu?, apo po m\u00eb mesin fmit\u00eb, kush kujdeset?<\/p>\n

Zoti na rujt\u00eb, po mi gjen\u00eb di\u00e7ka fmit\u00eb e po m\u00eb lan\u00eb mu gjall\u00eb, se ata kan\u00eb dit\u00eb me bo qashtu.<\/p>\n

Ke vet pervoja, ka storje e storje t\u00eb ndryshme, edhe mas disa minutave e pyeta nj\u00eb tjet\u00ebr, se me t\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00eb ke shokuese.<\/p>\n

Thash m\u2019fal a bon\u00eb me dit\u00eb se ku po na d\u00ebrgoni?<\/p>\n

Tha po, n\u00eb stacion t\u00eb trenit edhe keni me shku t\u00eb gjth\u00eb n\u00eb Maqedoni, me radh\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Ke nj\u00ebfar\u00eb rahatimi ashtu!<\/p>\n

LD: N\u00eb krahasim me\u2026<\/p>\n

LT: Me po ju vrajm\u00eb, po ju qojm\u00eb n\u00eb stadion.<\/p>\n

Edhe po mandej aty na pat\u00ebn qu n\u00eb stadium kah ora 3 masdite ka qen\u00eb, 31 marsi.<\/p>\n

Edhe kemi nejt\u00eb deri ka ora 1 e gjysm\u00eb t\u00eb nat\u00ebs, dmth u ba nj\u00eb prilli, edhe ka ora 12 e nat\u00ebs si zakonisht kshtu me shaka qata q\u00eb i kisha n\u00eb rreth i thash Hej qetash u ba ni prilli, edhe kan\u00eb me na thane Aprilili ktheu n\u00eb shpi, u mundojsha me qato momente, pak humorin mos me asi.<\/p>\n

Edhe jo ashtu nuk ndodhi, po ka ora 1 e gjys\u00eb t\u00eb nat\u00ebs na kan\u00eb vendos nep\u00ebr kope t\u00eb trenit, tash e ke parasysh\u00eb ajo \u00ebsht\u00eb p\u00ebr 6 persona, 3 kshtu, 3 kshtu.<\/p>\n

26 njerz i kam\u00eb numru, 26 njer\u00ebz kemi qen\u00eb me nj\u00eb kope treni.<\/p>\n

Edhe, nj\u00ebna kam\u00eb s\u2019m\u00eb kujtohet e majta apo e djatha um\u00eb pat met\u00eb n\u00eb qet\u00eb pozicion kshtu si pjerrte, edhe qashtu e kom\u00eb pas une deri n\u00eb Blllac\u00eb. Nuk kom\u00eb pas shanc\u00eb un\u00eb me e lujt\u00eb kam\u00ebn qaq ngusht\u00eb q\u00eb kom\u00eb qen\u00eb, fmit\u00eb e vegj\u00ebl, djali qajke, smujsha as qumshtin qysh me ja p\u00ebrgatit, me ja qit prej asaj tetrapakut n\u00eb ata se s\u2019mujshe krah\u00ebt me i leviz\u00eb kurqysh.<\/p>\n

Met\u00ebm pa ajr ashut, edhe kah ora gati 6 ka qen\u00eb dikund n\u00eb mengjes, kemi zbrit\u00eb n\u00eb Bllace.<\/p>\n

Vlen\u00eb me u theksu, para se me u nis\u00eb k\u00ebtu n\u00eb Prishtin\u00eb, shum\u00eb kan\u00eb luajt\u00eb me ndjenjat e tona, sepse i kan\u00eb pas\u00eb 2 lokomotiva. Nj\u00eb n\u00eb at\u00eb at\u00eb q\u00eb shkonte p\u00ebr Maqedoni, edhe nj\u00eb n\u00eb an\u00ebn tjet\u00ebr q\u00eb shkojke n\u00eb Nish t\u00eb Serbis\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Edhe her\u00eb e nisshin trenin, fare pak po e nisshin, edhe na e dishim hej n\u00eb Serbi po na qojn\u00eb, edhe \u00e7ka ka me na gjet\u00eb, domethan\u00eb sdisa her\u00eb ka ndodh\u00eb qajo radhazi gjat\u00eb nates derisa veq jemi nis\u00eb p\u00ebr Maqedoni.<\/p>\n

Po edhe aty na kan\u00eb lan\u00eb nja nj\u00eb or\u00eb nashta masi q\u00eb kemi mrri n\u00eb at\u00eb stacionin e trenit a \u00e7ka ish Bllaca, edhe nuk na i hapshin as dyer, as dritare. Met\u00ebm pa aj\u00ebr, fmit\u00eb b\u00ebrtitshin, qajshin, normal nuk mujshin me duru me ni moment kom\u00eb bertit\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Thash \u201c Hej, a po na i qelni\u00a0 dyert se na edhe ashtu po vdesim\u201d me t\u00eb v\u00ebrtet\u00eb po, thash bile t\u00eb marr nj\u00eb her\u00eb aj\u00ebr, frym\u00eb mir\u00eb edhe le t\u00eb m\u00eb vrasin.<\/p>\n

Po nuk ndodhi, mir\u00eb shyqyr.<\/p>\n

Na i hap\u00ebn dyert, zbrit\u00ebm, aty fillun\u00eb me i nda prap\u00eb burrat, tek tuk, se edhe k\u00ebtu prej kolon\u00ebs i kan\u00eb nda, po jo t\u00eb af\u00ebrmit e mi po i kom\u00eb pa.<\/p>\n

LD: E a ka pas vrasje?<\/p>\n

LT: Nuk e di ma andej, se na kemi shku nuk di \u00e7ka ka ndodh\u00eb, flitet p\u00ebr dhunime n\u00eb Tasligje, p\u00ebr vrasje tek tuk, po un\u00eb s\u2019kam qen\u00eb d\u00ebshmitare k\u00ebshtu q\u00eb nuk muj me e konfirmu.<\/p>\n

Po aty si kemi dal\u00eb un\u00eb vllaut ja dhash\u00eb djalin n\u00eb dor\u00eb, se ky ish i vog\u00ebl edhe thash sit e shohin me fmi asi menj\u00ebher\u00eb e kan\u00eb ndal\u00eb. NDALU! Ai ma l\u00ebshoi mu djalin n\u00eb dor\u00eb, un\u00eb nuk mujsha ma me ec\u00eb, se dojsha me pa \u00e7ka po ndodh\u00eb me ata, ata m\u00eb shtyjshin hajde hajde hajde grahi.<\/p>\n

E kan\u00eb majt\u00eb vAllah nj\u00eb koh\u00eb t\u00eb caktume, po nuk e di sa. Po jo, nuk e kan\u00eb, kurgjo sss, do pare do kur ja kan\u00eb lyp\u00eb po as nuk e kan\u00eb malltretu as kurgjo, mandej na u ka bashku edhe qashty kemi nejt\u00eb nj\u00eb nat\u00eb gati thuajse n\u00eb Bllac\u00eb, e prej aty ne Gostivar e qishtu. Po, kena p\u00ebrfundu n\u00eb Gostivar\u00eb.<\/p>\n

LD: N\u00eb Gostivar\u00eb, keni qen\u00eb, a ke gjet\u00eb mik\u00ebpritje?<\/p>\n

LT: Shum\u00eb, ata sigurisht\u00eb ajo vala e refugjat\u00ebve ka fillu edhe m\u00eb her\u00ebt, po na s\u2019kemi dit\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Ata kishin qen\u00eb super t\u00eb organizum\u00eb, kur kemi shku aty ma s\u00eb pari na kan\u00eb grumbullu n\u00eb xhami.<\/p>\n

P\u00ebrve\u00e7 ushqimit, mos t\u00eb flasim q\u00eb ka pas\u00eb llojllojshm\u00ebri, krejt, krejt ata njer\u00ebz q\u00eb u merrshin me ato veprimtari, burektore, qebaptore, restorana ku e di un\u00eb \u00e7ka, krejt\u00eb kan\u00eb pru.<\/p>\n

\u00c7far\u00eb nuk kan\u00eb pru, me hanger, me pi po p\u00ebrve\u00e7 asaj i ke pas nep\u00ebr xhami do kazana t\u00eb m\u00ebdhej e kjo domethan\u00eb kontribut i qytetar\u00ebve jo i dikujt tjet\u00ebr, me uj\u00eb t\u00eb nxeht\u00eb, detergjenta, shampona, q\u00eb me mujt\u00eb bile kamt\u00eb me i hjek prej kpucave, me la naj qorap\u00eb a di\u00e7ka.<\/p>\n

Mik\u00ebpritja ka qen\u00eb e hatashme, na aty nuk kemi nejt\u00eb gjat\u00eb. Nashta tan\u00eb dit\u00ebn kemi nejt\u00eb at\u00eb dit\u00eb n\u00eb xhami. Edhe mandej n\u00eb mbramje na ka marr\u00eb nj\u00eb familje na ka strehu, qysh ka ndodh\u00eb thuajse me krejt\u00eb, k\u00ebrkush nu ka ble.<\/p>\n

LD: Familje shqip\u00ebtare apo?<\/p>\n

LT: Jo jo shqip\u00ebtare.<\/p>\n

LD: S\u2019ka pas Maqedon qe kan\u00eb mir\u00ebprit\u00eb?<\/p>\n

LT: Jo, me sa un\u00eb e kujtoj jo, Shqip\u00ebtar\u00eb kan\u00eb qen\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Bile ai q\u00eb kena nejt\u00eb na ka qen\u00eb n\u00eb Zvic\u00ebrr, po, i ka pas\u00eb vllaznit aty dhe ju ka than\u00eb me shku me marr\u00eb nj\u00eb familje Kosovare edhe kan\u00eb ardh\u00eb na kan\u00eb marr\u00eb, k\u00ebshtu q\u00eb super kan\u00eb qen\u00eb.<\/p>\n

LD: Aha, gjat\u00eb koh\u00ebs q\u00eb ke qen\u00eb jasht\u00eb Kosov\u00ebs, qysh ke prit\u00eb q\u00eb ka me perfundu situata, n\u00eb Kosov\u00eb d.m.th. A ke pas\u00eb pritshm\u00ebri pozitive a negative?<\/p>\n

LT: Po t\u00eb them t\u00eb drejt\u00ebn, se \u00ebsth\u00eb pozitiviteti ai q\u00eb ty t\u00eb man\u00eb gjall\u00eb edhe t\u00eb shtin tutje me shpresu, po.<\/p>\n

Gjat\u00eb gjith\u00eb koh\u00ebs me kujtohet kur kemi shku aty n\u00eb Gostivar na i apt\u00ebn pru do kartona t\u00eb gjelb\u00ebrt, kan\u00eb qen\u00eb Kartona Identifikimi m\u00eb doket i quajshin, em\u00ebr, mbiem\u00ebr, dat\u00eblindje.. Si form\u00eb e leternjfotimit.<\/p>\n

Se ata qashty i identifikojshin refugjat\u00ebt, edhe \u00e7ka une, njeri \u00e7ka don\u00eb e beson, edhe p\u00ebr her\u00eb t\u00eb par\u00eb kur e kom marr\u00eb n\u00eb dor\u00eb ja kom shiku afatin, sa ka vler\u00eb ajo, sa ka afat deri kur edhe e kom pa 28 qershor 1999, edhe ju kom than\u00eb ej ktyne n\u00eb shpi, na n\u00eb qershor\u00eb n\u00eb fund t\u00eb qershorit shkojm\u00eb n\u00eb shpi.<\/p>\n

Asnjo s\u2019ka besu, as une s\u2019jom kan\u00eb shum\u00eb q\u00eb kam besu, po dojsha me besu, dojsha, dojsha.<\/p>\n

Edhe nj\u00eb daj\u00eb t\u00eb bab\u00ebs bile e kom pas aty n\u00eb Gostivar, e pata taku nja 80 vjet i ka pas aj ka qen\u00eb i vjet\u00ebr.<\/p>\n

A pe din\u00eb bre daj\u00eb \u00e7ka o ka bohet, thash po po, n\u00eb fund t\u00eb qershorit kemi me shku n\u00eb shpi.<\/p>\n

Ai filloi me kajt\u00eb, tha spo besoj po kur jemi taku mandej n\u00eb Prishtin\u00eb, m\u00eb p\u00ebrqafi tha ei kadale.<\/p>\n

Do t\u00eb thot\u00eb jo pse un\u00eb kom dit\u00eb di\u00e7ka, po pse un\u00eb dojsha me dal\u00eb qashtu edhe po.<\/p>\n

Gjithmon\u00eb thojsha hajt se s\u2019jemi p\u00ebr gjat\u00eb k\u00ebtu a din, kthehem kthehem.<\/p>\n

P\u00ebr dallim prej nan\u00ebs tem, q\u00eb ajo, ndjes\u00eb past\u00eb qaq shum\u00eb q\u00eb o kan\u00eb merzit\u00eb, ajo ka qen\u00eb n\u00eb Strug\u00eb, edhe kur folshim n\u00eb telefon thojke kuku kurr\u00eb skemi me u khty n\u00eb shpi, thojsha jo bre nan\u00eb po, thojke jo ti nuk i njeh kta qysh jan\u00eb. A e din\u00eb sa njeri ka met\u00eb qishtu kur ka pas\u00eb lufta, kan\u00eb met\u00eb refugjat\u00eb nep\u00ebr shtete tjera, i thojsha jo more se nuk rrim\u00eb na n\u00eb Maqedoni, Zoti na rujt\u00eb.<\/p>\n

LD: Zot runa.<\/p>\n

LT: Edhe, un\u00eb jam kshtu pak patriote prej natyr\u00ebs.<\/p>\n

Kemi pas\u00eb mundsi shum\u00eb me shku, n\u00eb Europ\u00eb, ke pas\u00eb n\u00eb Amerik\u00eb e ke pas\u00eb n\u00eb Kanad\u00eb, gjithkah kan\u00eb shku, s\u2019jam lajmru asnj\u00ebher\u00eb, s\u2019kam dasht\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Kom dasht\u00eb me nejt sa ma af\u00ebr shpis\u00eb, n\u00eb momentin qe t\u00eb kryhet gjith\u00e7ka me u kthy n\u00eb shpi, edhe qashtu ka ndodh\u00eb.<\/p>\n

LD: A ke pas\u00eb ktu kur jetu n\u00eb shpi a ke pas\u00eb kojshi serb edhe qysh jan\u00eb kan\u00eb marr\u00ebdh\u00ebniet para edhe mas?<\/p>\n

LT: Jo, fatkeq\u00ebsisht\u00eb, jo k\u00ebtu nuk kemi pas\u00eb. Atje n\u00eb shpi, fmi kur kemi qen\u00eb i kemi pas\u00eb 3 ose 4 shpi, po qudit\u00ebnisht ata kan\u00eb qen\u00eb t\u00eb mir\u00eb, s\u2019kemi pas\u00eb probleme. Nuk ka pas\u00eb naj kshtu najfar lezeti me u en\u00eb me ta, me dal\u00eb me pi kafe, po kur i kemi taku n\u00eb rrug\u00eb i kemi p\u00ebrshenet, na kan\u00eb p\u00ebrshendet.<\/p>\n

Nj\u00eb ka qen\u00eb gjenerat\u00eb e jemja, nifar Millani, me ata edhe lujshim kur kemi qen\u00eb t\u00eb vegj\u00ebl.<\/p>\n

A k\u00ebtu nuk kemi pas\u00eb, kshtuq\u00eb nuk muj me fol shum\u00eb p\u00ebr marr\u00ebdh\u00ebniet me ta, n\u00eb shkoll\u00eb fillore ka pas\u00eb paralele veq me serb, po nuk kemi pas\u00eb problem, jo. Mir\u00eb kemi kalu, ndonj\u00ebher\u00eb bile u ndrrojshim kshtu me hartime, a po ma shkrun\u00eb ti nja shqip, ti shkruma nja serbisht.<\/p>\n

LD: Nice<\/p>\n

LT: Po, ka pas\u00eb gj\u00ebra t\u00eb tilla, po te une asnj\u00ebher\u00eb, edhe un\u00eb mendoj q\u00eb krejt problemi ka qen\u00eb te politika edhe at\u00ebher\u00eb, jo te njer\u00ebzit e thjesht\u00eb, te qytetar\u00ebt.<\/p>\n

Nuk kemi pas probleme mes vete. E ata mandej i kan\u00eb bo 1milion inskenime, 1milion gjana.<\/p>\n

Ata kan\u00eb qen\u00eb n\u00eb gjendje me i vra fmit\u00eb e vet, me ja u lan\u00eb fajin shqiptar\u00ebve.<\/p>\n

Se ka dokumentar\u00eb t\u00eb ndrysh\u00ebm q\u00eb jan\u00eb t\u00eb faktum.<\/p>\n

Qetash nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb shum\u00eb moti ka qen\u00eb nj\u00eb ngjarje n\u00eb Pej\u00eb, nja PANDACASE, a nuk e di qysh e qujshin.<\/p>\n

5-6 t\u00eb ri serb\u00eb, jo i kan\u00eb vra shqiptar\u00ebt, i kan\u00eb bo kshtu, edhe dul qetash, dometha\u00ebn gjyqi serb e konstatoi se JO, Shqiptar\u00ebt skan\u00eb pas\u00eb t\u00eb b\u00ebjn\u00eb kurgjo, Serbt\u00eb i kan\u00eb vra Serbt\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Po veq me i rrit\u00eb tensionet.<\/p>\n

K\u00ebshtuq\u00eb, gjithmon\u00eb kan\u00eb ardh\u00eb prej nalt presioni e tensioni e t\u00eb gjitha.<\/p>\n

Po, tash jemi ku jemi \u00e7dogj\u00eb p\u00ebrfundoi, ju jeni gjenerat\u00eb me fat.
\nLD: E kshtu n\u00eb p\u00ebrgjith\u00ebsi, qysh e kishe definu ose p\u00ebrcak\u00ebtu eksperiencen tane ashtu me ni fjal\u00eb, edhe qysh menon se te ka menu si njeri, ne \u00e7far\u00eb aspektesh?<\/p>\n

LT: P\u00ebr Zotin, me nj\u00eb fjal\u00eb \u00ebsht\u00eb pak\u00eb problematike, une po thom prej qe mbaj mend e deri sa ka p\u00ebrfundu lufta, jeta jon\u00eb nuk ka qen\u00eb asnj\u00ebher\u00eb qysh osht dasht\u00eb me qen\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Se un\u00eb e kom kry komplet shkoll\u00ebn fillore, edhe t\u00eb mesmes, edhe s\u2019kemi qen\u00eb asnj\u00ebher\u00eb n\u00eb ekskurizon.<\/p>\n

Saher\u00eb osht dasht me u organizu, gjithmon\u00eb ka ndodh\u00eb di\u00e7ka.<\/p>\n

Mandej, mos te harroj me cek\u00eb edhe helmimin q\u00eb na pat ndodh\u00eb, un\u00eb kam\u00eb qen\u00eb n\u00eb vitin e dyt\u00eb n\u00eb shkoll\u00eb t\u00eb mesme, na kan\u00eb helmu, na kan\u00eb pru helm n\u00eb shkoll\u00eb.<\/p>\n

Un\u00eb veq n\u00eb klas\u00ebn time i kam\u00eb pas\u00eb 4 ose 5 nxansa, s\u2019po jam shum\u00eb e sigurt\u00eb q\u00eb kan\u00eb qen\u00eb t\u00eb helmum\u00eb, i kom\u00eb pa vuajtjet e tyne. Nd\u00ebrkoh\u00eb shoqja jeme e ngusht\u00eb e lagjes q\u00eb jemi rrit\u00eb bashk\u00eb, Aida.<\/p>\n

Edhe p\u00ebr qata po thom nuk ka, nuk munesh me nj\u00eb fjal\u00eb me p\u00ebrshkru rinin\u00eb, po edhe fminin\u00eb ton\u00eb se ka qen\u00eb e jasht\u00ebzakonshme sikur situata q\u00eb ka qen\u00eb gjith\u00ebher\u00eb e jasht\u00ebzakonshme.<\/p>\n

E ato mandej i lan\u00eb edhe vrag\u00eb, nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb leht\u00eb mandej.<\/p>\n

Edhe une tash nonstop ju thom fmive ju nuk e dini sa me fat jeni q\u00eb po jetoni n\u00eb koh\u00ebn q\u00eb po jetoni, se na i kemi pas\u00eb krejt\u00eb t\u00eb kufizume.<\/p>\n

S\u2019ke mujt\u00eb ti me dal\u00eb sikur qetash lir\u00eb, se pa asnj\u00eb arsye t\u00eb ka ndal\u00eb polici n\u00eb rrug\u00eb, ta ka k\u00ebrku leternjoftimin, s\u2019e ke pas\u00eb osht ba problem. T\u00eb ka arrestu, mandej t\u2019i ka nxjerr\u00eb 100 probleme tjera q\u00eb ti s\u2019ke pas\u00eb lidhje me ato, u impliku mandej edhe familja e ka pas p\u00ebrsekutime, ka pas, problem ka qen\u00eb.<\/p>\n

E qetash une p\u00ebr vete po e ndjej lirin\u00eb edhe po e shijoj.<\/p>\n

LD: M\u00eb vjen mir\u00eb.<\/p>\n

LT: Qekjo osht\u00eb.<\/p>\n

LD: Faleminderit shum\u00eb p\u00ebr k\u00ebt\u00eb intervist\u00eb, ke shkelqyerr, nuk kam\u00eb pas\u00eb asnj\u00eb dyshim<\/p>\n

LT: Faleminderit prej juve, oh, t\u00eb lutem!<\/p>\n

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