{"id":1127,"date":"2021-01-20T23:59:57","date_gmt":"2021-01-20T23:59:57","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/museumofrefugees-ks.org\/?p=1127"},"modified":"2021-08-19T10:05:33","modified_gmt":"2021-08-19T10:05:33","slug":"kefsere-dula","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/museumofrefugees-ks.org\/kefsere-dula\/","title":{"rendered":"Kefsere Dula"},"content":{"rendered":"

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[\/vc_column_text][\/vc_column][\/vc_row][vc_row][vc_column][vc_column_text]Intervistuesi: Milot Qorrolli<\/p>\n

E intervistuara: Kefsere Dula<\/p>\n

Akronimet: MQ: Milot Qorrolli, KD: Kefsere Dula<\/p>\n

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KD: Un\u00eb quhem Kefsere Dula, me profesion jam arsimtare e gjuh\u00ebs shqipe.<\/p>\n

MQ: A m\u00eb tregon si ka filluar lufta ?<\/p>\n

KD: Lufta ka filluar dhe q\u00eb thon\u00eb e v\u00ebshtir\u00eb boll ka qen\u00eb, e kemi prit v\u00ebshtir\u00eb po se kemi menduar q\u00eb me dal prej vendit ton\u00eb se kemi prit.<\/p>\n

Edhe nj\u00eb dit\u00eb her\u00ebn e par\u00eb q\u00eb ka gjuajtur NATO se kemi prit q\u00eb dalim prej banes\u00ebs po erdh\u00ebn policia me maska un\u00eb isha me tre f\u00ebmij\u00ebt edhe me burrin, kur i kemi pa aty p\u00ebr aty f\u00ebmija ve\u00e7 kan\u00eb mbet t\u00eb habitur, shuni se asgj\u00eb nuk \u00ebsht\u00eb mos u frik\u00ebsoni , se q\u00eb dalim jo kan\u00eb me na mbyt un as nuk kom marr\u00eb tesha as asgj\u00eb se nuk e kom menduar q\u00eb kemi me dal gjat\u00eb lufte, tu menduar s\u2019ka me qen\u00eb k\u00ebshtu me na qit krejt jasht\u00eb .<\/p>\n

MQ: A keni qen\u00eb vet\u00ebm ju apo ka pas edhe familje tjera ?<\/p>\n

KD: Jo, pes\u00eb familjet qe kemi qen\u00eb n\u00eb at\u00eb banes\u00eb, krejt familjen na kan\u00eb qit\u00eb ,vet\u00ebm nj\u00eb serb ka qen\u00eb n\u00eb katin e pest\u00eb, edhe kat\u00ebr familjet shqiptar rend na kan\u00eb qit\u00eb, kur kan\u00eb ardhur n\u00eb katin e kat\u00ebrt neve na qiten, me l\u00ebshuar banes\u00ebn, morra f\u00ebmij\u00ebt me burrin pasi kemi dal n\u00eb korridor,vet\u00ebm f\u00ebmij\u00ebve ja kom jep nj\u00eb jakne me e vesh, edhe kemi zbrit posht\u00eb, kur i kom qit tre f\u00ebmij\u00ebt edhe veten burrin ma kan\u00eb ndal, burrin ma kan\u00eb marr\u00eb ma kan\u00eb kthyer prap\u00eb n\u00eb banes\u00eb djalin e madh edhe vajz\u00ebn e madhe i kom th\u00ebn\u00eb\u00a0 shkoni ju ecni bashk\u00eb me t\u00eb lagjes tani takohemi n\u00eb rrug\u00eb, edhe un jam ndalur para banes\u00ebs, mu m\u00eb thoshin shko se burri vjen. Un ju thosha a keni f\u00ebmij\u00eb ju ,a po ma sheh vajz\u00ebn qysh po qan , a jeni prind ju ,\u00e7ka bon f\u00ebmija p\u00ebr prind kur e din ku e ka prindin,kur vjen burri un\u00eb shkoj. Aty ka zgjat gjysm\u00eb ore gati 1 or\u00eb ja kishin marr: 2 mij\u00eb euro, ja kan\u00eb marr\u00eb arin \u00e7ka e kam pas krejt, e kan\u00eb kontrolluar, me rrah nuk e kan\u00eb rrahur, frik\u00eb kan\u00eb pas boll, automatikun n\u00eb fyt ja kan\u00eb mbajt q\u00eb tregojke mbasanej\u00a0 jemi dal shkall\u00ebve te posht\u00eb, kemi zbrit deri sa i kemi gjet f\u00ebmij\u00ebt te \u2018\u2019Qafa\u2019\u2019 n\u00eb Prishtin\u00eb aty i kemi gjet f\u00ebmij\u00ebt edhe jemi bashkuar. .<\/p>\n

MQ: A ju kan\u00eb rrethakuar policia serbe?<\/p>\n

KD: Po. Ne t\u00eb dy an\u00ebt i kemi pasur policin, na kan\u00eb th\u00ebn\u00eb shkoni drejt tek stacioni i trenit, na kemi shkuar tek stacioni i trenit, kur i kemi par\u00eb krejt grumbull \u00a0e t\u00ebr\u00eb Prishtina tu shkuar te stacioni i trenit. Aty kemi q\u00ebndruar deri n\u00eb ora 12 t\u00eb nat\u00ebs q\u00eb na kan\u00eb mbajt n\u00eb t\u00eb ftoft\u00eb.<\/p>\n

MQ: Te stacioni i trenit?<\/p>\n

KD: Po n\u00eb tren shikojshin p\u00ebr dritare, f\u00ebmij\u00ebt i shtishin p\u00ebr dritare, nuk i \u00a0zinte dera, ve\u00e7 jan\u00eb tu na d\u00ebrguar me na mbyt dikun, se nuk po na caktojn\u00eb as vendin ku po na qojn\u00eb,edhe kur ka ardhur ne 12 e 30 treni tjet\u00ebr qaty jemi munduar \u00a0edhe kemi hi s\u2019na kan\u00eb lan mu largu prej stacionit, qashtu krejt tub\u00eb kemi hyr\u00eb n\u00eb tren ,do n\u00eb k\u00ebmb\u00eb disave, ju bike t\u00eb fik\u00ebt, pa kam, pa dor\u00eb, pleq, t\u00eb rinj, f\u00ebmij\u00eb, gjith\u00e7ka ka pasur. Kur \u00ebsht\u00eb \u00a0b\u00ebr\u00eb ora 1:30 e nat\u00ebs at\u00ebher\u00eb ka filluar treni me ec, pak 5 min u ndalke, na thoshin qitu po ndalet e kan\u00eb vendos me na mbyt\u00eb. Deri sa kemi arrit n\u00eb Stankovec qashtu kemi shkuar \u00a0kadal dale ma shpejt kishim shkuar n\u00eb k\u00ebmb\u00eb se sa ashtu sa kadal ka shkuar treni. Kur kemi arrit n\u00eb ora 4 t\u00eb m\u00ebngjesit n\u00eb Stankovec kur u ndal treni na kan\u00eb th\u00ebn\u00eb: dilni jasht\u00eb \u00e7ka me dal \u00a0krejt bari si ka\u00e7uba, therra dhe tok\u00eb e that\u00eb, mjegull, kuku p\u00ebr neve thoshim \u00e7ka kina me bo na k\u00ebtu.<\/p>\n

MQ: Sa dite keni q\u00ebndruar aty?<\/p>\n

KD: Aty kemi q\u00ebndruar 5 dit\u00eb, llo\u00e7 n\u00eb tok\u00eb paketa kina shtruar me fjet, me k\u00ebto tesha q\u00eb i kemi pas, tani duke ju fal\u00ebnderuar tetovar\u00ebve shqiptar q\u00eb na kan\u00eb ndihmuar shum\u00eb na kan\u00eb sjell qebe,buk\u00eb, uj\u00eb s\u2019na kan\u00eb lan\u00eb keq p\u00ebr asgj\u00eb, a pse ka qen\u00eb toka e k\u00ebshtu keq tjet\u00ebr gj\u00eb ata jan\u00eb mundu me mbulesa me krejt. Ka mesi i dit\u00ebs ka filluar pak mu nxeh koha kur u ardhur nj\u00eb gazetar shqiptar nga Suedia na tha a doni ta jepni intervist\u00eb, thash po \u00e7ka me th\u00ebn\u00eb qysh jom\u00eb dal prej sht\u00ebpis\u00eb \u00a0dhe qysh kam qen\u00eb. Shpin e kemi l\u00ebn\u00eb qel, na kan\u00eb qit policia se kurr\u00eb s\u2019kisha dal me lan vendin e nuk e kisha l\u00ebshuar po kur t\u00eb qesin me maska me automatik\u00eb ne fyte patjet\u00ebr u desht\u00eb me dal prej or\u00ebs 9 t\u00eb m\u00ebngjesit deri n\u00eb ora 1 e 30 tek treni deri sa kemi ardhur k\u00ebtu n\u00eb 4 t\u00eb m\u00ebngjesit, aj gazetari e hoqi jakn\u00ebn e vet ma ka qit n\u00eb krah\u00eb mu tha mbaje se ftoft\u00eb, aj shqiptari i Shkupit q\u00eb ish gazetar tha dy f\u00ebmij\u00ebt e m\u00ebdhenj mi jep mua se nuk mundem me marr\u00eb m\u00eb shum\u00eb, por po i \u00a0marr sikur ndihm\u00ebs p\u00ebr gazetari dhe me t’i \u00a0marr\u00eb n\u00eb sht\u00ebpin\u00eb time i ka mbajt djemt\u00eb e mi ,burri se ka dit\u00eb. E t\u00eb nes\u00ebrmen\u00a0 m\u00eb ka lajm\u00ebruar q\u00eb jan\u00eb mir\u00eb djemt\u00eb n\u00eb Shkup. N\u00ebna i k\u00ebqyr si f\u00ebmij\u00ebt \u00a0e vet, po me tha po m\u00eb vjen keq p\u00ebr juve q\u00eb nuk po \u00a0mundem me ju bo zgjidhje me ju marr\u00eb. I thash n\u00eb rregull ve\u00e7 le t\u00eb jen\u00eb mir\u00eb e sh\u00ebndosh se s\u2019ka problem. M\u00eb pas tani kemi filluar me dal prej Stankovevcit .Aty kemi hjek shum\u00eb keq kur kemi dal aty u kan\u00eb nj\u00eb si grop\u00eb me kaluar, se nuk lejoheshim nga policia me kaluar \u00a0kufirin, un\u00eb dola me \u00e7ik\u00eb t\u00eb vog\u00ebl prej Bllac\u00ebs n\u00eb Stankovec\u00a0 po burrin ma ndal\u00ebn n\u00eb Stankovec mu ma l\u00ebshuan, burri tu fol tu\u00a0 marr me t\u00eb mire ka kaluar edhe aj me dal n\u00eb Sankovec. M\u00eb pas kemi vazhduar rrug\u00ebn deri te nj\u00eb vend n\u00eb Maqedoni aty kemi q\u00ebndruar 3 jav\u00eb dit\u00eb, aty jemi vendos na kan\u00eb pru shator\u00ebt por ne ishim t\u00eb traumatizuar \u00a0psiqikisht nuk e ditshim as ku po shkojm\u00eb, a \u00e7ka po b\u00ebjm\u00eb, ku jemi a ku i kemi pjes\u00ebn tjet\u00ebr te familjes.<\/p>\n

MQ: A ka pas aty polic serb ku kini q\u00ebndruar?<\/p>\n

KD: N\u00eb Stankovec jo nuk ka pasur aty vet\u00ebm ushtria ka qen\u00eb a n\u00eb Bllac\u00eb po ka pas.<\/p>\n

MQ: Pas Stankovecit ku keni shkuar ?<\/p>\n

KD: Kur e kemi kaluar Stankovecit jemi regjistruar dhe kemi shkuar n\u00eb Izrael,
\nsot jemi regjistruar, pas dy dite na erdhi \u00a0lajmi, hajdeni me shkuar, p\u00ebr tri or\u00eb kemi arrit n\u00eb Izrael .<\/p>\n

MQ: Sa veta jeni kan\u00eb p\u00ebraf\u00ebrsisht ?<\/p>\n

K.D:150 veta jemi kan\u00eb atje na kan\u00eb prit shum\u00eb mir\u00eb, kryetari Ii Izraelit me flamuj me sene, at\u00ebher\u00eb jam qet\u00ebsuar, kur i kom pa me flamuj,tash kur po m\u00eb kujtohen ato trishtime ato momente t\u00eb v\u00ebshtira aty na kan\u00eb shti n\u00eb nj\u00eb sall\u00eb t\u00eb mir\u00eb, na ka fol n\u00eb gjuh\u00ebn e vet, nj\u00eb grua me emrin Ana, na ka p\u00ebrkthyer n\u00eb shqip nj\u00eb or\u00eb pas nj\u00eb ore na kan\u00eb d\u00ebrguar n\u00eb nj\u00eb vend tjet\u00ebr si me than\u00eb p\u00ebrtej aty n\u00eb nj\u00eb restorant q\u00eb e kishin rezervuar ata me flejt me pi me t\u00eb gjitha.<\/p>\n

MQ: Sa keni q\u00ebndruar n\u00eb Izrael ?<\/p>\n

KD: 6 muaj kemi q\u00ebndruar, pas dy tri jave ,na than\u00eb mundeni me \u00a0vazhduar me punu n\u00eb nj\u00eb familje, nj\u00eb pun\u00ebtor\u00eb .Burri tha pse jo, pse mos me punuar. Aty filluam me pun\u00eb kadal dale edhe djali filloj me punuar ,pasandej edhe \u00e7ika ka ardhur dhe filloj me punuar, vet\u00ebm \u00e7ika e vog\u00ebl nuk punonte .Pas dy muaj dit\u00eb f\u00ebmij\u00ebt e vegj\u00ebl u kishin nevoj\u00eb q\u00eb t’i m\u00ebsonte dikush, e harronin gjuh\u00ebn, edhe m\u00eb pyeten: a ka dikush q\u00eb ka kryer shkoll\u00eb p\u00ebr arsim, thash un e kom kualifikimin e kom p\u00ebrfunduar shkoll\u00ebn normal, gjuh\u00ebn e kom, mundem q\u00eb t\u00eb punoj me ta.<\/p>\n

M\u00eb pyet\u00ebn: a je e zonja q\u00eb mundesh me punuar, un dy muaj dit\u00eb kom punuar, fillova refugjat\u00ebve me ju dhan\u00eb m\u00ebsim ata ishin t\u00eb k\u00ebnaqur me mu, me muzik\u00eb, edukat\u00eb fizike, gjuh\u00eb shqipe, matematik\u00eb. U merresha me disa gjana, me muzik\u00eb pak me aktru, a ka mu bo me shku n\u00eb Kosov\u00eb, kur t\u00eb bohet mir\u00eb kemi me shkuar. Ata ishin t\u00eb k\u00ebnaqur me mu. Jeta gjat\u00eb luft\u00ebs ish e v\u00ebshtir\u00eb m\u00eb p\u00ebrjetuar.<\/p>\n

MQ: A keni menduar mu kthyer ?<\/p>\n

KD: Po gjithqysh, ve\u00e7 s\u2019kemi pas krah\u00eb me fluturuar se n\u00eb at\u00eb dit\u00eb ishim ardhur n\u00eb Kosov\u00eb. Se nuk e kemi menduar me jetuar kurr\u00eb jasht\u00eb vendit, pas 6 muaj na caktuan dat\u00ebn, than mu kthyer. Po kur jemi kthyer prap\u00eb n\u00eb Kosov\u00eb i gjet\u00ebm krejt, shkrumb, por prap\u00eb si n\u00eb vend tanin s\u2019ka askund. Kur e mendoj q\u00eb dikon e ka prek lufta, i kan\u00eb vra, i kan\u00eb masakruar, shum\u00eb se jo pak. E neve jo dhe po i lutem Zotit tash inshalla b\u00ebhet mir\u00eb, se ne i kemi kaluar ato v\u00ebsht\u00ebrsit, p\u00ebr t\u00eb rinjt\u00eb se, ne mosha jon\u00eb i kemi kaluar ato v\u00ebsht\u00ebrsit edhe shpresoj q\u00eb t\u00eb b\u00ebhet mir\u00eb .<\/p>\n

Faleminderit p\u00ebr koh\u00ebn e dh\u00ebn\u00eb ju uroj t\u00eb gjith\u00eb t\u00eb mirat<\/p>\n

Faleminderit edhe juve q\u00eb keni gjetur koh\u00eb p\u00ebr intervist\u00eb.[\/vc_column_text][\/vc_column][\/vc_row]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

[vc_row][vc_column][vc_column_text] [\/vc_column_text][\/vc_column][\/vc_row][vc_row][vc_column][vc_column_text]Intervistuesi: Milot Qorrolli E intervistuara: Kefsere Dula Akronimet: MQ: Milot Qorrolli, KD: Kefsere Dula   KD: Un\u00eb quhem Kefsere Dula, me profesion jam arsimtare e gjuh\u00ebs shqipe. MQ: A m\u00eb tregon si ka filluar lufta ? KD: Lufta ka filluar dhe q\u00eb thon\u00eb e v\u00ebshtir\u00eb boll ka qen\u00eb, e kemi prit v\u00ebshtir\u00eb po se […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":1021,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[22],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/museumofrefugees-ks.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1127"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/museumofrefugees-ks.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/museumofrefugees-ks.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/museumofrefugees-ks.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/museumofrefugees-ks.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1127"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/museumofrefugees-ks.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1127\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1377,"href":"https:\/\/museumofrefugees-ks.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1127\/revisions\/1377"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/museumofrefugees-ks.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1021"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/museumofrefugees-ks.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1127"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/museumofrefugees-ks.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1127"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/museumofrefugees-ks.org\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1127"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}